If every vampire who said he was at the crucifixion was actually there, it would have been like Woodstock.

Spike ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 18, 2005 1:10:12 pm PDT #880 of 10002
What is even happening?

Has anyone else here ever heard that you can't actually read in your dreams?


tommyrot - Jul 18, 2005 1:12:19 pm PDT #881 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Has anyone else here ever heard that you can't actually read in your dreams?

Yes. This was discussed in the movie Waking Life.


Ginger - Jul 18, 2005 1:12:58 pm PDT #882 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Has anyone else here ever heard that you can't actually read in your dreams?

I've read posts in dream b.orgs, so I don't think it's true. (Yeah, I gotta get better dreams.)


P.M. Marc - Jul 18, 2005 1:13:41 pm PDT #883 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Has anyone else here ever heard that you can't actually read in your dreams?

Yeah, but I've also heard you can't smell in your dreams, and as I've had dreams centered around both spilling a bottle of Obsession (I had none anywhere near me, but knew the scent well) in Pay n Pak and reading the best Regency I've ever found (I always wake up before I finish reading them, I fear), I don't really believe it.

I mean, in my dreams, I see the words, read the words, flip back a page or two to re-read the words because I've skimmed over something important... it's just like actual reading. Sometimes I go to find the book and then am sad to realize it isn't real.


beekaytee - Jul 18, 2005 1:14:02 pm PDT #884 of 10002
Compassionately intolerant

I've written and read sheet music in my dreams. Which I've never been able to do in my waking life.


Sue - Jul 18, 2005 1:16:49 pm PDT #885 of 10002
hip deep in pie

I've read posts in dream b.orgs, so I don't think it's true. (Yeah, I gotta get better dreams.)

I think the thing is supposed to be that the text, if it is actually text there, and not just imagined text, will not stay stable. If you read something in a dream, then try to read it again, it will have changed.


Jesse - Jul 18, 2005 1:17:50 pm PDT #886 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

If you read something in a dream, then try to read it again, it will have changed.

I'm always surprised that there are people who have this level of memory of dreams, much less that much conscious agency in them.


ChiKat - Jul 18, 2005 1:18:12 pm PDT #887 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I've also heard you can't die in dreams. But I have.


Betsy HP - Jul 18, 2005 1:20:36 pm PDT #888 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

you can't actually read in your dreams?
I do it all the time. Then I wake up and am bummed that the book doesn't exist.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 18, 2005 1:21:35 pm PDT #889 of 10002
What is even happening?

I mentioned it, because I fell asleep this afternoon, dreamt, and read, and I knew when I'd heard it before, I thought it sounded contrary to my experience.

Does anyone know the mechanics behind the theory? Is it something like during REM sleep, region A of the brain is I dunno, dead, or something?

Yeah, but I've also heard you can't smell in your dreams, and as I've had dreams centered around both spilling a bottle of Obsession (I had none anywhere near me, but knew the scent well) in Pay n Pak and reading the best Regency I've ever found (I always wake up before I finish reading them, I fear), I don't really believe it.

Oh, I am fairly certain I've dream-smelled odors that were not in my physical proximity while I slept, and that I've incorporated smells in the environment into my dreams.

Okay, Plei, or Ginger, do either of you have anything approaching a photographic memory? I don't have what people would describe as a strictly (or fully functional) photographic memory, but I have moments of it, particularly for the written word. For example, if I'm looking for a particular line in a book, I know whether it's on the left, or right, or top/middle/bottom of a page. I can usually see it, and the line breaks in my head. Sometimes, I can see the whole page, although not all the words. I'm wondering if anything like this might come into play for people who can read in their dreams.