Xander: Am I right, Giles? Giles: I'm almost certain you're not. Though, to be fair, I haven't been listening.

'Sleeper'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jul 18, 2005 1:17:50 pm PDT #886 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

If you read something in a dream, then try to read it again, it will have changed.

I'm always surprised that there are people who have this level of memory of dreams, much less that much conscious agency in them.


ChiKat - Jul 18, 2005 1:18:12 pm PDT #887 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I've also heard you can't die in dreams. But I have.


Betsy HP - Jul 18, 2005 1:20:36 pm PDT #888 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

you can't actually read in your dreams?
I do it all the time. Then I wake up and am bummed that the book doesn't exist.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 18, 2005 1:21:35 pm PDT #889 of 10002
What is even happening?

I mentioned it, because I fell asleep this afternoon, dreamt, and read, and I knew when I'd heard it before, I thought it sounded contrary to my experience.

Does anyone know the mechanics behind the theory? Is it something like during REM sleep, region A of the brain is I dunno, dead, or something?

Yeah, but I've also heard you can't smell in your dreams, and as I've had dreams centered around both spilling a bottle of Obsession (I had none anywhere near me, but knew the scent well) in Pay n Pak and reading the best Regency I've ever found (I always wake up before I finish reading them, I fear), I don't really believe it.

Oh, I am fairly certain I've dream-smelled odors that were not in my physical proximity while I slept, and that I've incorporated smells in the environment into my dreams.

Okay, Plei, or Ginger, do either of you have anything approaching a photographic memory? I don't have what people would describe as a strictly (or fully functional) photographic memory, but I have moments of it, particularly for the written word. For example, if I'm looking for a particular line in a book, I know whether it's on the left, or right, or top/middle/bottom of a page. I can usually see it, and the line breaks in my head. Sometimes, I can see the whole page, although not all the words. I'm wondering if anything like this might come into play for people who can read in their dreams.


Connie Neil - Jul 18, 2005 1:21:40 pm PDT #890 of 10002
brillig

If you read something in a dream, then try to read it again, it will have changed.

Yes, this! I was having a dream about a really interesting X-Men comic (I'm a geek, sue me), and the words kept changing. I often dream of strange book stores with stashes of comics I've never seen before that fit between issues I own.

And I've dreamed some epic space battles that make the opening of Star Wars Ep III look like pop guns and bathtub battleships.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 18, 2005 1:23:26 pm PDT #891 of 10002
What is even happening?

Betsy, and Connie, do you dream about the story, or are you actually reading the words in your dreams?


Betsy HP - Jul 18, 2005 1:24:00 pm PDT #892 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I'm actually reading the book in my dreams.


tommyrot - Jul 18, 2005 1:24:53 pm PDT #893 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I can't read in my dreams. If I stare really hard at text on a page the text never resolves into a stable, fixed image.


Vortex - Jul 18, 2005 1:26:38 pm PDT #894 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I once had a dream where I was looking at a sign or something, and it was gibberish, and I remember wondering if this is what letters looked like before I learned to read.


Sue - Jul 18, 2005 1:27:46 pm PDT #895 of 10002
hip deep in pie

The changing reading thing is supposed to be a signpost for people who are trying to lucid dream. The first step in trying to change your dreams is to make yourself aware that you are in the dream state.

Usually when I realize I'm dreaming I wake up. I have a friend who when he realizes "I'm in a dream," someone in the dream will talk him into believing he's not dreaming.