Angel: How're you feeling? Faith: Like I did mushrooms and got eaten by a bear.

'A Hole in the World'


Spike's Bitches 25 to Life  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


-t - Jul 18, 2005 12:00:12 pm PDT #1478 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Well done, vw!

I am never going to believe you when you say you've blown a final again.


vw bug - Jul 18, 2005 12:01:41 pm PDT #1479 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

I still think I didn't do well on the final. And, she must have been very generous with partial credit. But, I did do well on the papers and quizzes, so that must have evened it out.


askye - Jul 18, 2005 12:02:39 pm PDT #1480 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I'm about to leave work, go see my therapist, decide if I want to admit I haven't done something or just talk about other things to cover. There's a lot to talk about and really the thing I haven't done is tiny.

Then I'm going to go dancing tonight. PLUS I'm meeting a co worker there, she's never been dancing so this will be fun. Plus me being social!!

Teppy, I've dealt with the boundary issues before. Mom and I are really close and sometimes she asks me things I really don't want to answer (especially dealing with my money situation). For awhile I'd stammer through on the phone and hem and haw before I could say that I'd rather not discuss it. I think she was hurt at first, but she's been really good about figuring out if I don't want to discuss something.

I can't wait to see pictures from Toto's party!


beekaytee - Jul 18, 2005 12:15:32 pm PDT #1481 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

It's a balancing game, to take care of how you deal with people and how you deal with yourself.

Truest of true things, ita. And I get the 'I did this for a specific reaction' kind of thing.

And Steph, your description of your dad's behavior made me literally groan in recognition. Just like Sail, I've btdt. So. very. draining.

And I did the same in my situation that she did in hers...changing behaviors in a way that respected the other person as a grown up who could and can take care of themselves. What helped it to not be hard for me is realizing that if I DID do everything 'perfect' (take every phonecall, do an entertaining tap dance, make 'em laugh, make 'em laugh, etc.), the lonely/dysfunction/need would still be there. It's not something that can be fixed from outside the sufferer.

Believe me, if there WAS a way to fix that kind of thing, I'd a) have had a way happier childhood, b) be richer than Oprah right now.

Boundaries are our right and responsibility. Having habits around them that we don't like anymore? Not as hard at it might seem to change.

I'm doing some Rational Emotive Therapy techniques with a coaching client and found "How to refuse to make yourself miserable about anything, yes anything!" by Albert Ellis, the father of RET while waiting at B&N for HBP. It's a quick read with lots of good exercises. If books are at all supportive to you, I recommend this one.


Amy - Jul 18, 2005 12:33:00 pm PDT #1482 of 10001
Because books.

Assorted ~ma and punctuation to them that needs it. All I need today is an air-conditioner. Or a freezer, preferably.

"How to refuse to make yourself miserable about anything, yes anything!" by Albert Ellis

Cool. I wrote the cover copy for the updated version of that, but I don't think the new edition is out yet.


beekaytee - Jul 18, 2005 12:37:33 pm PDT #1483 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

No kidding! That IS cool. Did you work with Dr. Ellis for the copy?

This one was in the 'leftover' sales stuff at B&N, so not the new edition. I like the idea that there is a new one coming out. This one doesn't look very modern.

ETA: Any idea when the new copy will come out? I'm thinking of using it in a group setting.


SailAweigh - Jul 18, 2005 1:24:59 pm PDT #1484 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I think I need a couple dozen copies of that book, Beej. One for me and the other 23 for my daughter. (She loses things.)

Go with the grades, vw! Wh00t!!


DavidS - Jul 18, 2005 1:27:02 pm PDT #1485 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Sail, you're being paged in F2F. Vortex is going through your neighborhood on short notice.


SailAweigh - Jul 18, 2005 1:32:35 pm PDT #1486 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Thanks, Hec!


Anne W. - Jul 18, 2005 1:40:00 pm PDT #1487 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Hec! Quick question: Have either you (or Emmett) read Summerland, by Michael Chabon?

If not, you must. It's about baseball and the end of the world.