Gavin, ask yourself this question. What are you more afraid of, a giant murderous demon or me?

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Spike's Bitches 25 to Life  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


beekaytee - Jul 18, 2005 12:15:32 pm PDT #1481 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

It's a balancing game, to take care of how you deal with people and how you deal with yourself.

Truest of true things, ita. And I get the 'I did this for a specific reaction' kind of thing.

And Steph, your description of your dad's behavior made me literally groan in recognition. Just like Sail, I've btdt. So. very. draining.

And I did the same in my situation that she did in hers...changing behaviors in a way that respected the other person as a grown up who could and can take care of themselves. What helped it to not be hard for me is realizing that if I DID do everything 'perfect' (take every phonecall, do an entertaining tap dance, make 'em laugh, make 'em laugh, etc.), the lonely/dysfunction/need would still be there. It's not something that can be fixed from outside the sufferer.

Believe me, if there WAS a way to fix that kind of thing, I'd a) have had a way happier childhood, b) be richer than Oprah right now.

Boundaries are our right and responsibility. Having habits around them that we don't like anymore? Not as hard at it might seem to change.

I'm doing some Rational Emotive Therapy techniques with a coaching client and found "How to refuse to make yourself miserable about anything, yes anything!" by Albert Ellis, the father of RET while waiting at B&N for HBP. It's a quick read with lots of good exercises. If books are at all supportive to you, I recommend this one.


Amy - Jul 18, 2005 12:33:00 pm PDT #1482 of 10001
Because books.

Assorted ~ma and punctuation to them that needs it. All I need today is an air-conditioner. Or a freezer, preferably.

"How to refuse to make yourself miserable about anything, yes anything!" by Albert Ellis

Cool. I wrote the cover copy for the updated version of that, but I don't think the new edition is out yet.


beekaytee - Jul 18, 2005 12:37:33 pm PDT #1483 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

No kidding! That IS cool. Did you work with Dr. Ellis for the copy?

This one was in the 'leftover' sales stuff at B&N, so not the new edition. I like the idea that there is a new one coming out. This one doesn't look very modern.

ETA: Any idea when the new copy will come out? I'm thinking of using it in a group setting.


SailAweigh - Jul 18, 2005 1:24:59 pm PDT #1484 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I think I need a couple dozen copies of that book, Beej. One for me and the other 23 for my daughter. (She loses things.)

Go with the grades, vw! Wh00t!!


DavidS - Jul 18, 2005 1:27:02 pm PDT #1485 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Sail, you're being paged in F2F. Vortex is going through your neighborhood on short notice.


SailAweigh - Jul 18, 2005 1:32:35 pm PDT #1486 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Thanks, Hec!


Anne W. - Jul 18, 2005 1:40:00 pm PDT #1487 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Hec! Quick question: Have either you (or Emmett) read Summerland, by Michael Chabon?

If not, you must. It's about baseball and the end of the world.


DavidS - Jul 18, 2005 1:43:00 pm PDT #1488 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hec! Quick question: Have either you (or Emmett) read Summerland, by Michael Chabon?

We have not, though I am aware of its existence and baseball focus.

If not, you must. It's about baseball and the end of the world.

What more can one ask for in a novel?


Anne W. - Jul 18, 2005 1:56:35 pm PDT #1489 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

What more can one ask for in a novel?

Zeppelins. There are also zeppelins.


tommyrot - Jul 18, 2005 2:00:42 pm PDT #1490 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

And a pepper bar!