This is not funny. This... this is a morality tale about the evils of sake.

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Spike's Bitches 25 to Life  

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Steph L. - Jul 18, 2005 6:36:11 am PDT #1443 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Oh, actually -- it'll have to be the 13th. Because the weekend of the 20th, my bro and SiL will be home for Reception #2, and I'm sure there'll be an assload of family stuff to do then.

So, the 13th? Or the 27th.


-t - Jul 18, 2005 6:39:59 am PDT #1444 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Belated birthday happies for juilana.

I'm a wee bit distracted and not focussy. My brother got married on Friday. Happy making but also leaving me off balance.


brenda m - Jul 18, 2005 6:49:55 am PDT #1445 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Bah. All the good intents in the world aren't going to help if I can't follow through.

I don't really think that's true. I think just being aware when you're getting into a situation that maybe you should be handling otherwise is a big step forward. It's not all the way there, but it's something.


Scrappy - Jul 18, 2005 6:55:08 am PDT #1446 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Saying no and upsetting people is the hard part of the whole boundaries thing. Once you do it a couple of times and see how quickly they get over it and how it doesn't destroy your realtionship and, by gum, that they still like you (okay, my issue there), it gets easier.


beekaytee - Jul 18, 2005 6:59:08 am PDT #1447 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I so want to jump into conversations like this but A) off duty, B) none of my business. But I will say that Brenda and Robin are wise.

Plus, because I can't help myself...Remember that people choose their own emotions. You can't MAKE them feel anything.


Cashmere - Jul 18, 2005 7:00:59 am PDT #1448 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

So, the 13th? Or the 27th.

The 13th looks good to me.


-t - Jul 18, 2005 7:18:21 am PDT #1449 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Do the hard mentally healthy stuff as best you can, Tep. And don't beat yourself up about sometimes taking the easy way, just don't let it become habit.

B&J's Flavor Locator says the nearest Chocolate Therapy to me is in Mccomb Mississippi. That's so wrong.


Steph L. - Jul 18, 2005 7:20:17 am PDT #1450 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

B&J's Flavor Locator

I'm gonna be in Vermont in 3 weeks -- Ben & Jerry's tour, baby!!!


ChiKat - Jul 18, 2005 7:22:06 am PDT #1451 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

B&J's Flavor Locator says the nearest Chocolate Therapy to me is in Mccomb Mississippi. That's so wrong.

Oh, that is sad. I've been to McComb and it's a nice little town, but you shouldn't have to go there for ice cream. If you do and you need it, I know the bail bondsman there.

On Plei's rec, I got some of that last week. It lasted 2 days.


WindSparrow - Jul 18, 2005 7:22:34 am PDT #1452 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Steph, would it help to remember that boundaries are limits you put on your own behavior? Being aware of what resources you have to give out to others, and what you need to reserve for yourself, may help. Remember that If You Do Not Take Care of Yourself, You CANNOT Take Care of Anyone Else.

And? It's ok to not be perfect at setting and enforcing boundaries. It may take a while for it to really gel for you. That time between recognizing that you need to work on your boundaries and figuring out what YOU specifically need to do to set and keep 'em - is valuable, and it is very individual. Maybe you, as an individual, need more official work on the concept, like in a support group, or more therapy, or reading self-help books. Or maybe you just need time to bake. But whatever it is, you need it.

You, Steph, are a beautiful, wonderful woman. You are capable of making your life better.