ita, because most men don't wear shirts that fit. They wear shirts that are something like "medium" and the collar and sleeve length are very very approximate.
Angel: Yeah, I never told anyone about this, but I-I liked your poems. Spike: You like Barry Manilow.
'Hell Bound'
The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Betsy HP - May 04, 2006 7:07:25 pm PDT #9804 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
§ ita § - May 04, 2006 7:10:47 pm PDT #9805 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
because most men don't wear shirts that fit
Really? If you grab a shirt (not button down, but you know what I mean) they're sized that way? Why in hell do they keep lording sizing specifics over my gender again? When it's come to my father and other guys whose closets I've been familiar with they've certainly had shirts sized by neck and sleeve measurements.
But if Tim doesn't even wear pants that fit, it's all moot, and Allyson can call off the midnight raid.
Tamara - May 04, 2006 7:19:37 pm PDT #9806 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Hooray, the mens clothing thread is back in action.
Buy him the shirt and give him a gift receipt. Done deal. Make him work for it.
Betsy HP - May 04, 2006 7:39:05 pm PDT #9807 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
When it's come to my father and other guys whose closets I've been familiar with they've certainly had shirts sized by neck and sleeve measurements.
This is because the guys you're familiar with have necks like oxen and pectorals to match.
Yes, my father wears Brooks Brothers, too. But you sure do see a lot of "Medium" and "Large" men's shirts in the stores.
Kristen - May 04, 2006 7:41:30 pm PDT #9808 of 10001
I'm not going to be able to stop giggling at that.
Minearverse 5: Stop, collaborate and listen.
aurelia - May 04, 2006 7:43:11 pm PDT #9809 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
John doesn't have to pick up Tim's dry cleaning?
§ ita § - May 04, 2006 7:50:08 pm PDT #9810 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
This is because the guys you're familiar with have necks like oxen and pectorals to match.
Colin and my father and, well, most of the guys whose closets I've been in are looking at you real funny. I'm not sure why they don't shop like the average guy, but it's not because they're shaped like that.
P.M. Marc - May 04, 2006 8:10:08 pm PDT #9811 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Any of Paul's button-downs have at least a neck measurement. I don't know if they get more specific than that, and have like, 16 Gorilla Arms Pot Belly or 16 Stumpy Limb Thin Guy or something. But they are slightly more specific than S/M/L.
Casual wear, OTOH, is all about the letters, in shirts at least.
Allyson - May 04, 2006 8:30:33 pm PDT #9812 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
We really should get John a login here so we can ask him those important questions.
Barry Woodward - May 04, 2006 9:24:27 pm PDT #9813 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!
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