You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Ginger - Jul 03, 2005 11:24:48 am PDT #573 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Tim, I've really enjoyed following you from hard-drinking space western to a hard-drinking whimsical comedy to a hard-drinking abyss-peering noir. Unfortunately, the inability of good shows to stay on television may just lead me to hard drinking. I hope you get a new project soon, mostly so I can watch it. It's all about me.


Wolfram - Jul 03, 2005 11:25:03 am PDT #574 of 10001
Visilurking

I'm just numb. I continue to faithfully watch and pimp each new Minear show, but unfortunately I'm not at all surprised at this news. I like that Tim thinks about it as BBC-type miniseries DVD box sets. And I hate the masses.


lilserf - Jul 03, 2005 11:30:02 am PDT #575 of 10001
Friends don't let friends dismiss Veronica Mars unjustly.

The unwashed masses.

With their endless CSIs and L&Os. And their insipid reality shows. And their brainless laugh-tracked formulaic half-hour comedies.

Wow, this is making me bitter.


Tim Minear - Jul 03, 2005 11:31:17 am PDT #576 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Ginger and Wolfram, thanks both. I do think good shows can stay on television. But they have to be launched. And it can be done. It's a network's job to bring the audience, it's our job to keep that audience and grow it. I've just had more bad launches than the space shuttle program. And re-entry is a bitch.


Kristen - Jul 03, 2005 11:36:24 am PDT #577 of 10001

With their endless CSIs

Hey now, don't hate the player, hate the game.


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2005 11:37:00 am PDT #578 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You know, I'm very frustrated by the British short series ... except I do cheris the 13 disc sets of good shows that failed in the US. It's not as satisfying as running forever (and still rocking), but thank DOG we ehave the market and the technology to get these out.

And bless, Tim, for arcing with that in mind. Sure, it hurts to not have a show you enjoy, but that awful hanging feeling is a bit mitigated. And it makes it easier to pretend the network would have ruined it with notes later. Also sad to think that the writers you like don't have their show, but, hey, bring on the next one. One'll stick, or more'll come. I want to stay attached to that.


lilserf - Jul 03, 2005 11:38:10 am PDT #579 of 10001
Friends don't let friends dismiss Veronica Mars unjustly.

Hey now, don't hate the player, hate the game.

I'm not saying CSI is bad. It's not my cup of tea, but I see the appeal. I just don't think we need 3 CSIs and no The Inside.


Stephanie - Jul 03, 2005 11:38:23 am PDT #580 of 10001
Trust my rage

Having a new baby means that I haven't watched more than the first show live. However, I've finally seen them all. The last one was my favorite. I could go on about everything I liked about it, but the bottomline is that the show really grew on me. I loved so much of the dialogue last week.

I'm sad that show won't be around more. Tim, I've liked all your TV so far and I'm looking forward to whatever comes next. I'm looking forward to watching the series, whether it's on TV or DVD.


lilserf - Jul 03, 2005 11:41:49 am PDT #581 of 10001
Friends don't let friends dismiss Veronica Mars unjustly.

ita's right that arcing for 13 episodes is a wonderful thing in these situations. Wonderfalls DVDs were so nice because of that, and left me much less angry than the cut-off-in-the-middle Firefly set.

We might not get a second season, but at least we get an awesome 13-hour miniseries.


Kevin - Jul 03, 2005 11:42:25 am PDT #582 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Tim,

Two things: I love The Inside. To be honest, I knew this was coming (not in an insider knowledge way, but you know - the history education way). I thank you and your crew for putting it together. I look forward to seeing the story in full (or as full as could be told) whenever that happens.

And I don't mean that in as arse licky fan boy way as it sounds: I really did find many layers in the show I've missed since Angel Season 2 and 3 days. Darkness rocks my world.

Second: I'm not going to run a Save The Inside campaign. However, is it worth getting information out there to 'campaign' (as in, postcard) for a DVD release? Or should that hold off for now?

If only UK TV paid better, I'd kidnap you and bundle you to here. I'm actually used to your style of programming of late as it very much fits into how things work here in the UK.