Angel: Will you just shut up for once?! Illyria: What? Angel: My God, the speechifying. Has it ever occurred to you that now might not be the best time for when-we-were-muck stories?

'Time Bomb'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kevin - Jul 03, 2005 11:42:25 am PDT #582 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Tim,

Two things: I love The Inside. To be honest, I knew this was coming (not in an insider knowledge way, but you know - the history education way). I thank you and your crew for putting it together. I look forward to seeing the story in full (or as full as could be told) whenever that happens.

And I don't mean that in as arse licky fan boy way as it sounds: I really did find many layers in the show I've missed since Angel Season 2 and 3 days. Darkness rocks my world.

Second: I'm not going to run a Save The Inside campaign. However, is it worth getting information out there to 'campaign' (as in, postcard) for a DVD release? Or should that hold off for now?

If only UK TV paid better, I'd kidnap you and bundle you to here. I'm actually used to your style of programming of late as it very much fits into how things work here in the UK.


Tim Minear - Jul 03, 2005 11:46:34 am PDT #583 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Kevin, thanks. My advice is to just hang tight on the DVDs of it. When we fired up production, I got a call from 20th, the studio, and they said to make sure and keep all the cut scenes and such, that they viewed the show as a DVD project (I view all my shows on Fox as DVD projects, but that's a slightly different reading.) I don't think the studio side is going to need any convincing, and if it turns out they do, I'll let ya know.


Kiba Rika - Jul 03, 2005 11:48:43 am PDT #584 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

Podcast.

This is what I was thinking. With, of course, archived oggs/wavs/your preferred type of file. Because I think it'd be pretty easy to set up - get Allyson, Kristen, the DVDs, and something that records digital audio with a mic all in the same room. I (and I'm sure I'm not the only one) would be happy to host the archived recordings and a page linking to all of them. Then it's just a matter of a person getting their computer/mp3 player/preferred method of listening to digital audio near their Inside episode viewing apparatus (in my case, a TV with DVR). I'm not up on the tech stuff it'd require to do the actual recording, but I've no doubt there is some Buffista who is, and I expect someone MUCH closer to LA than I am.

There was this sort of commentary for the first ep of Wonderfalls. Katie and Todd Holland did it. (It's in Shockwave format, I would hope Kristen and Allyson would be kind enough to use a more archive-friendly format.)

I'm actually used to your style of programming of late as it very much fits into how things work here in the UK.

I was going to ask about that. I seem to recall that a "season" in the UK is significantly shorter than our standard 22 episode idea. I wonder how artists feel about that. Does it leave more room for creative experimentation? Hmmmm.

...Tim, you know I love you. I also hope you know I really do enjoy the show. My boyfriend might dump me for it. (Not Rebecca or Rachel, mind you, as he doesn't like blondes even a little, but THE ACTUAL SHOW.) He LOVES it so much. He spent a workday reading reviews and came home dejected. He just keeps saying, "Why?" and now in a minute I'm going to go downstairs and tell him you weighed in on the thing. (When I said, "Someone says blah blah no more Inside," and he was like "Really? Why? Do you believe them?" I said "I'm waiting until Tim says something.")

Sad to see it (might) go, looking forward to DVDs, really hoping we can make this Allyson and Kristen Commentary thing work.


lilserf - Jul 03, 2005 11:51:28 am PDT #585 of 10001
Friends don't let friends dismiss Veronica Mars unjustly.

Battlestar Galactica's producer did podcast commentaries you could download from the SciFi website. I believe they were set up such that you pressed "Play" when the title hit the screen or something like that. Something similar would work here for buffistentaries.


Tim Minear - Jul 03, 2005 11:52:57 am PDT #586 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Kiba, bf was looking at the wrong reviews. Say the word and I'll link you to a slew of positive to raves. We got them, too, you know. And the pans were generally dismissive and not unlike the pans Firefly and Wonderfalls got. Maybe angrier. The hard split in opinion actually cheered me somewhat. It meant something was working.


Polter-Cow - Jul 03, 2005 11:54:03 am PDT #587 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Podcast commentaries don't do me much good since my computer isn't next to my TV. I like my commentaries on the DVD! But I also like to complain about things. Podcasts could be all unofficial and shit, too, anyway. Renegade commentaries!


Tim Minear - Jul 03, 2005 11:54:09 am PDT #588 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

"buffistentaries"

Can we find another word? This sounds a little like a digestive disease.


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2005 11:55:40 am PDT #589 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I seem to recall that a "season" in the UK is significantly shorter than our standard 22 episode idea. I wonder how artists feel about that.

Well, Chris Eccleston quit doctoring after a strenuous 13 episode season. And I'm not saying it to mock -- the standard seems to be shorter even than that, and I'm not sure if the production timetables are scaled the same way.


Polter-Cow - Jul 03, 2005 11:55:41 am PDT #590 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"buffistentaries"

Can we find another word? This sounds a little like a digestive disease.

I'm not entirely sure what that's supposed to be a mashup of. Buffistas and...I don't even know. Something -entaries, c—oooh.

Buffistommentaries?

Well, Chris Eccleston quit doctoring after a strenuous 13 episode season.

Yeah, I heard about that. No fun! I'm enjoying him so far, just saw the sixth episode.


lilserf - Jul 03, 2005 11:56:23 am PDT #591 of 10001
Friends don't let friends dismiss Veronica Mars unjustly.

I know that even after reading 4 raves, a single reviewer that clearly didn't get what was going on and panned it for the wrong reasons made me annoyed as hell.

I hope enough eps air that we get some second-look reviews as I think The Inside is only getting better as we go.