Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --

Jayne ,'Serenity'


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[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Fredrik - Sep 26, 2005 12:05:43 pm PDT #4366 of 10001
Even the most stable brain operates just a millimeter from madness.

Though perhaps it was being tortured by Dana that finally knocked some sympathy for victims into his head, and it just took a few episodes to percolate.
That's where my vote lands. The end of Damage is one of my favourite Spike-moments, and I say that as one of those people that thinks he's overused and don't really like him very much anymore even though he once were cool. I also feel that his soul might have had effect on him and his choices before, but it's here it really start to matter, it's here his journey to humanity begins.

I actually look forward to the Spike-movie, but that has more to do with being starved for buffyversestuff and for the love of Tim than the character. Hopefully there will be Illyria too. Spike leading Illyra, they learning lots of thingies from each other, plus good amounts of pain and death. I could enjoy that.

Damage is by the way pretty far up the top on my list of best Angel-episodes. I mean, it's got Andrew, a crazy vampire slayer and a bonesaw, which might not be quite as cool as a melon baller but still effective. How can there not be love?!


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 26, 2005 1:11:13 pm PDT #4367 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That "Drusilla sired me but you made me a monster!" moment was the sort of thing I'd hoped for in the way of Spike/Angel interaction, as opposed to the infantile "Am not!" "Are too!" arguments that made up 90% of their dialogue together in Season 5.


Nearmiss - Sep 26, 2005 1:11:47 pm PDT #4368 of 10001
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who matter don't mind and those who mind don't matter.

A good sturdy bone saw should always proceed the balling of the melon.

I have to agree with Fredrik. Honestly, I can't see Illyria leading anything at this point in her development. She's still pretty much a hatchling that is only beginning to understand how things work.


Gris - Sep 26, 2005 1:13:23 pm PDT #4369 of 10001
Hey. New board.

balling of the melon

*giggle*

t /twelve


Morgana - Sep 26, 2005 1:19:39 pm PDT #4370 of 10001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Did anyone ever figure out why a psychiatric institution *just happened* to have a bone saw laying (lying? I can never keep laying/lying straight) around in the hallway? Did they perform impromptu surgeries in the patient rooms? Was it to handle those pesky hangnails?


amych - Sep 26, 2005 1:20:42 pm PDT #4371 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Flebotnum. And lying.


Morgana - Sep 26, 2005 1:21:51 pm PDT #4372 of 10001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

So what's the grammar rule-of-thumb to help you differentiate between laying and lying?


amych - Sep 26, 2005 1:28:44 pm PDT #4373 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

So what's the grammar rule-of-thumb to help you differentiate between laying and lying?

There's really no good mnemonic (at least, not that I've ever found). Lay always refers to someone or something else -- you lay a book down on the table, or you lay someone, or you get laid (by someone). If you're doing it on your own -- lying down, lying around -- it's lie. It's almost always lie.

(And "now I lay me down to sleep", on which I blame a lot of this mess, is correct only because it's "lay me" -- if it weren't for that pronoun in there, it would be "now I lie down..." Stupid fucking poetic structures.)


Gris - Sep 26, 2005 1:29:31 pm PDT #4374 of 10001
Hey. New board.

But... "Now I lay me down" sound so much prettier.

I need to lie down.


Morgana - Sep 26, 2005 1:31:08 pm PDT #4375 of 10001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Okay, thanks.... I'll try to pound that into my brain. You'd think after an English degree and 12 years as a technical writer I'd have that down, but I have a mental block. I have to look it up every time.