I have no idea why - it's formulaic and silly, but there's just enough eye candy and not totally laughable premises that I forgive a lot

It's like if the X-Files had much less attractive stars and writing not quite good enough to make me care about it. It's...relaxing.

I don't think that's what she's saying - it's more like making shows more obscure for the sake of the fans makes it harder for the execs to make $, so the creators get their jollies twice. It's not A=C, it's A=B=C (intransitive property).

But...how does sticking the title "Once More with Feeling" in the background without ever calling attention to it (or, you know, using blue gloves or naming a cat Angel) make a show more obscure? The shout-outs are entirely superfluous; they go right over the heads of those who aren't looking for them. I don't see what the Big Evil is, and how it affects executives at all.

A Wired article on the leaked GF pilot, and what it might mean for the future:

Meanwhile, Global Frequency creator Ellis has chimed in on his own website, noting that "the TV pilot (is) all over the net right now, on that filthy BitTorrent thing which is illegal and nasty and I certainly don't use it to watch The Daily Show or anything.... I don't have the torrent link, and I haven't seen the pilot, so don't ask. But feel free to buy the book."

Whether all the internet buzz ultimately revives the show, Rogers said he has learned much from the leak and about the power of the internet.

"It changes the way I'll do my next project," said Rogers. If he owned the full rights, he said, "I would put my pilot out on the internet in a heartbeat. Want five more? Come buy the boxed set." He urged other creators to do the same.

"It's a model and a reminder to the next guy who comes along," he said.

It's...relaxing.

Exactly. It tickles some of those buttons without the angst and drama and investment both when it was good and when it was really, really bad, as XF.

how do [shout-outs] make a show more obscure?

P-C, not saying I agree with the conclusion she came to. But I can kind of see how she got there. I think the point is supposed to be that the energy spent in creating all those shout-outs would be "better" served by making the shows more accessible.

The only thing I kind of agree with is the First Impressions Effect in terms of Rachel/Rebecca. I was intrigued by Rebecca but I didn't like her or identify with her pretty much right off the bat the way I did with Buffy, Veronica and Jaye. (The BF says his problem with Wonderfalls was that Jaye was too unlikeable but I liked her a lot - but then I am frequently a snarky bitch as well.) And Rachel really bugged at first. Web was the one that hooked me on the Inside.

Not to be too OT but I love VM to death and would have a million of its babies. Last fall Lost and VM were neck and neck in terms of my investment, and over the season Lost ended up in the "barely watchable" category while VM became app't tv.

Signed, still wishing for a VM buffistas thread

Refrigerated Dove chocolates and ginger-ale:

Note: I do like the Inside quite a bit though and plan to keep watching - I'm just not entirely there yet. In one way I am like the author of the piece - I trust Tim to bring it, so I'm in it for the long haul.

PS GF rawked. Revive GF!

To be fair, you'd have to be a hardcore fan to get the shoutouts. Most people watching the show have no idea who I am, so that's not so big, you sort of had to know the Wolfram thing was coming to notice it, the cat named Angel, well, you have to be a fan of Angel and know that Tim worked on Angel to even get it.

Harmony = Melody was a huge reach.

I bow to the superior wisdom of Polter-Cow and other VM posters in this thread, and to the quality recapping of Couch Baron at TWoP.

Watched the first 3 Veronica Mars episodes tonight (using voodoo magic, not the Internets, I swear) and I'm 100% on-board. That pilot was a great introduction to a complicatedly interesting premise, and the others kept the quality coming. Even having read the recaps of these episodes (I had to catch up for ep 11 tomorrow in reruns) and thus knowing the plot twists in advance, I enjoyed them immensely.

Rah rah! VM is great! I'm an idiot for not listening to the forty-seven thousand people who told me that earlier!

That'll teach me to half-watch half of an episode from halfway through the season.

Whee!

The blue gloves amused me.

Mostly because we did a photo shoot with paramedics (pseudomedics? I don't know, they looked real enough) at work and one of the photos they wanted retouched was wanting bluer gloves.

So I smiled privately at the hands of blue. Even if it wasn't intentional.

I think they are nice for the fans and transparent to anyone else. No harm done.

Holy crap, it's 1:46 AM here? VM was even more engrossing than I thought.

Aaaaand I'm starting ep 4 rather than go to bed.