NBC may not be such a bad place for a new Tim show. They don't have anywhere near the history of short-shrifting shows that Fox does.

Oh, how quickly we forget "Buffalo Bill."

Y'all need to stop talking 'bout "Another World." You're just re-opening old wounds for me. Same goes for "Freaks & Geeks." And I don't even want to go into what's happening over at the emotional compass which is (for me) "Guiding Light" (but that's on another network, so let's not).

If you're reading right now, Kristen? Apologies.

Ow, Cindy. My head hurts from considering all that. Oy, I may have to go look for some recaps. Curses!

I know I'm going to end up watching it. The only problem is, my kids are too young to be watching it and too old (in that, they'd understand too much). Also there was a really really really stupid conversation today between Abby (Jack and Jen's daughter, who is now a teenager) and her friend Chelsea, in which they discussed Chelsea's 'virginity' and her giving it to Max (Frankie's little brother who is all grown up and a race car driver, and trying to get in this girl's pants, and I take it a bit of a cad about it), and they used the word "virginity" about 5 times between the two of them, and always spoke of it as an object.

It was ridiculous. I made my mother and aunt laugh though, after the 3rd mention or so, when I said, "I gave Max my virginity, and now he can't find it." I'm all about the cheap laughs.

... and now he can't find it.

Bah-ha! "I know I put that thing around here somewhere. "

Too, too funny.

Oh, how quickly we forget "Buffalo Bill."

Dude, I don't think I ever remembered Buffalo Bill.

And, I just went to look at DaysOnline and it seems that the character Wayne's playing is completely new but, maybe, has a past with Marlena. Which, you know, freaky. Marlena is Mary Sue! Except when she's Satan!

Also the article reminded me that Wayne is the THIRD actor to return to DOOL in a new role. I had completely forgotten about Adrienne coming back as some weird cowgirl chick.

On the Billy Warlock front. Yes, he and Marcy were married for, like, a minute and reports had the breakup as pretty ugly. But then, on DOOL, Jennifer and Frankie broke up and he learned, like, some life lesson or something. It actually made me think he was even more of a tool.

Your wrongness is well documented.

this made me laugh and laugh and laugh. thanks for that.

I haven't seen DOOL in so long. the whole Marlena being possessed thing was enough to completely turn me off.

Billy Warlock back on DOOL is a good thing since the GH writers decided to make AJ the One True Evil in Port Charles. *rolleyes*

Do I even need to make a list [of shows Fox has cancelled]?

No need. I mean, aside from the fact that we all know them already, Family Guy made that list on the premiere and lo, it was good.

ETA - Admittedly, that list was just shows that had been cancelled since FG was cancelled, and included a lot of crap that should never have been made in the first place, but FF and WF were on there, and the sheer length of the list was awesomely ridiculous. If any Fox execs were watching FG that night, they should have hung their heads in shame.

Vanessa with or without the "L?"

Yes, yes, she had an L.

I can't believe the original Jack and Jen are back on DOOL. I was so addicted to that show back then.

I gave up on DOOL 10 years ago but, now you are all making me want to start TIVOing. Damn!

Oh, how quickly we forget "Buffalo Bill."

P'shaw. I'll see your Buffalo Bill, Boomtown, and Freaks and Geeks, and raise you Action, Tick, Profit, Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Firefly, Wonderfalls, The Inside, Family Guy (re-upped), Greg the Bunny, and The Ben Stiller Show.

Honorable mentions: Undeclared, Tru Calling, John Doe, Futurama, Briscoe County, Brimstone, and Harsh Realm.

And all the shows I'm forgetting.