I don't think I can make myself play a full 20. Scott and I just finished watching Prophecy Girl a few minutes ago.
My whole life just flashed before my eyes! I gotta get me a life!
Xander ,'Dirty Girls'
The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Topic!Cindy - Jul 18, 2005 8:10:50 am PDT #1550 of 10001
What is even happening?
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 18, 2005 8:14:02 am PDT #1551 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Pretty much the only good to come out of the whole Saint Cordy fiasco was all the excellent snark it inspired.
tiggy - Jul 18, 2005 8:14:53 am PDT #1552 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
I've never quite forgiven Tim for hairloaf junior. That was the beginning of the end for me. I realize I'm in the minority on that.
really? not in my corner of the fandom. there was very little love for junior. i couldn't stand him either. i even hated baby connor for turning Angel into a coo-ing/gagagoogoo idiot.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2005 8:17:49 am PDT #1553 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Pretty much the only good to come out of the whole Saint Cordy fiasco was all the excellent snark it inspired.
I'm greatful that they managed to give her a proper send-off (thank you David Fury), but I would have traded it in a nano-second if we'd avoided the suckitude in the first place. I didn't mind evil!Cordy, now with Jasmine upgrade, but everything about the (c)Rapture/pod!Cordelia was just awful.
Allyson - Jul 18, 2005 8:18:24 am PDT #1554 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I swore that the entire Connor arc was Minear's way of scaring us all into double bagging.
tiggy - Jul 18, 2005 8:20:01 am PDT #1555 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
I swore that the entire Connor arc was Minear's way of scaring us all into double bagging.
BWAH!! so glad i wasn't drinking anything when i read that.
Stephanie - Jul 18, 2005 8:23:09 am PDT #1556 of 10001
Trust my rage
If baby connor had just disappeared into Quortoth, I would have been okay with it all. I hated VK Connor so much.
AnthonyDe - Jul 18, 2005 9:08:06 am PDT #1557 of 10001
A One that isn't cold, is scarcely A One at all.
Check it: When did Angel "Jump the Shark?"
Personally for me it was when baby Connor returned as teen Connor.
DavidS - Jul 18, 2005 9:11:05 am PDT #1558 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I liked teen Connor, and though his whiny phase was unpleasant I very much enjoyed his last several appearances.
Cordy ascending was the absolute pits, however. That really derailed the show for a while. On the plus side, it gave us more time to focus on Bitter!Wes and that was fun.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 18, 2005 9:11:23 am PDT #1559 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
While I wasn't crazy about VK's portrayal, I thought Angsty Teen Connor had his uses. The infant version was only palatable to me in "Loyalty" and "Sleep Tight" when it looked like he might be pretty palatable to Angel, too...
I guess "Jump the Shark" choice depends on your definition. The show's best moment to me was the end of "Reunion," so everything was technically downhill from that point (though still very very good). There was a marked drop in quality with the Pylea arc, which ended the series' golden age. But I agree with Hec that the Crapture in "Tomorrow" was the absolute lowest point.