You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Allyson - Jul 08, 2005 9:27:14 am PDT #1181 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Hey! I already planned Tim's next show. It'll be GREAT! In my head. Because he says it's all too grim. hurrumph.


Allyson - Jul 08, 2005 9:30:34 am PDT #1182 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Also, [link]

"There's something very liberating about the genre. You can do big, giant metaphors and really hit them hard," says Tim Minear, co-creator of Fox's psychological crime drama "The Inside." Minear is also a veteran writer of futuristic space action ("Firefly"), contemporary fantasy ("Angel") and whimsical flights of fancy ("Wonderfalls"). He says he's producing "The Inside" in "exactly the way I did 'Angel.' It's melodrama with big, epic villains and moral ambiguity and heroes in jeopardy of being corrupted and going over to the dark side or walking in the dark in order to maintain the good. They just don't turn into vampires."

Writer Minear admits: "Some may look down their nose at us, but let me tell you a little secret. People who work in the genre secretly think we're much cooler. How many 'West Wing' conventions are there?"


Topic!Cindy - Jul 08, 2005 9:33:42 am PDT #1183 of 10001
What is even happening?

"There's something very liberating about the genre. You can do big, giant metaphors and really hit them hard," says Tim Minear, co-creator of Fox's psychological crime drama "The Inside."
It's true. And you know, it was much easier, even enjoyable in a sick way, to see say...Faith torture Wesley, where I don't think I could watch a scene like that outside of a high concept show.


tiggy - Jul 08, 2005 9:37:58 am PDT #1184 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

How many 'West Wing' conventions are there?"

BWAH!! and that is why i love Tim.


lilserf - Jul 08, 2005 9:39:21 am PDT #1185 of 10001
Friends don't let friends dismiss Veronica Mars unjustly.

Wow, Allyson, that The Inside reference is really kind of shoehorned in there. But the surrounding article is great, and TI is great, so I don't care.


Allyson - Jul 08, 2005 9:45:26 am PDT #1186 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Meh, I didn't write it.


lilserf - Jul 08, 2005 9:55:35 am PDT #1187 of 10001
Friends don't let friends dismiss Veronica Mars unjustly.

Yeah, sorry, that came off a little weird. Not your fault, just addressing you for no good reason since you posted it. I don't understand why people get so down on genre TV. It's practically all I watch.


Anne W. - Jul 08, 2005 10:01:03 am PDT #1188 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I don't understand why people get so down on genre TV. It's practically all I watch.

I wish those people would own up to the fact that "cop/doctor/lawyer 1 hour drama" is as much of a genre as "supernatural/sci-fi serial drama."


Kiba Rika - Jul 08, 2005 3:32:09 pm PDT #1189 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

I wish those people would own up to the fact that "cop/doctor/lawyer 1 hour drama" is as much of a genre as "supernatural/sci-fi serial drama."

I have recently taken to using the term "speculative fiction" for scifi/fantasy/horror stuff... Though it sounds a bit pretentious.


Zenkitty - Jul 08, 2005 4:03:31 pm PDT #1190 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

SpecFic?