Zoe: Captain will come up with a plan. Kaylee: That's good. Right? Zoe: Possibly you're not recalling some of his previous plans.

'Safe'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Jul 14, 2005 8:24:45 am PDT #9895 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I think that if and when there's another airliner hijaking (whatever happened to 'skyjacking'?) there's no way in hell the hijakers are gonna get into the cockpit, even if they start killing people to try to force the pilot and copilot to open up.

Yep. That route is closed. It was closed by the fourth plane that day.

Spend money securing cargo, jeniuses. Leave my nail clippers the fuck alone.

Let's spend some money on R&D on sensors for and evacuation of transit systems. And equipment. And training. And stockpile some anti-toxins, vaccines, and etc. in key locations. And have a network in place to distribute them efficiently. Lets fund these things in a ::gasp:: multi-state fashion! Maybe, and I know this sounds simply ::nutz:: have a national plan for the nation's safety -- instead of handing municipalities in EAST BUMBLEFUCK blank checks.

I don't want big governement, I want THIS government to respond as efficiently as NYC just did (which is appalling since NYC government isn't exacly known for efficiency).


Trudy Booth - Jul 14, 2005 8:28:15 am PDT #9896 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And we can't count on the National Guard to do it, those poor suckers are all in Iraq. We need systematic training, starting with the big cities, for all the law enforcement and rescue workers in the country. Duh.


Susan W. - Jul 14, 2005 8:28:18 am PDT #9897 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Definitely not just you. I've been expecting someone to blow themselves up in a shopping mall (or several simultaneously) at Xmas time or at a major sporting event (just imagine a suicide bomber throwing themselves in one of the dugouts, and how that affect people) ever since 9/11.

I've expected that, too, though it does seem Al Qaeda has a bit of a fixation on major cities and transportation networks. I wouldn't count on that lasting, though--someday some terrorist is going to realize that if they really want the population terrified, taking out a Walmart on the day after Thanksgiving is the way to go.

This was one of my first thoughts after I was able to think about anything but the horror of it all. Not going to work again, and it's not even going to require what happened with the PA flight.

I don't think it'd work on a passenger plane, but it might theoretically be possible to infiltrate a cargo plane crew, where there'd be less people to fight off the attackers.

Anyway, since I live in a port city, dirty bomb on a container ship is my personal nightmare scenario.


Trudy Booth - Jul 14, 2005 8:31:56 am PDT #9898 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

You basically can't stop suicide bombers in public places. We need to be able to deal with them as well as possible.

And by all means, lets secure the ports and chemical plants. Jeezus. That involves "more than maybe thirty people".


Frankenbuddha - Jul 14, 2005 8:34:39 am PDT #9899 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I wouldn't count on that lasting, though--someday some terrorist is going to realize that if they really want the population terrified, taking out a Walmart on the day after Thanksgiving is the way to go.

Or blow out a section of elevated highway or a tunnel. Making people scared to drive would be extremely crippling to the way this country lives day-to-day.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 14, 2005 8:35:54 am PDT #9900 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

And now only 100 posts or so to go.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2005 8:40:34 am PDT #9901 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You know, I managed to confuse Maginot with Plimsoll.

I am all better now.


Gudanov - Jul 14, 2005 8:47:06 am PDT #9902 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I wouldn't count on that lasting, though--someday some terrorist is going to realize that if they really want the population terrified, taking out a Walmart on the day after Thanksgiving is the way to go.

That's why we've spent $300 billion on the Iraq war. The terrorists are going to fight us over there. No need to worry about terrorists here.


DavidS - Jul 14, 2005 8:49:58 am PDT #9903 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yep. Car bomb pulls up next to a tanker truck filled with Chlorine or something flammable on a bridge or in a tunnel. How ya gonna stop that?


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2005 8:53:50 am PDT #9904 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, you start by making cars illegal. If that doesn't work, ban bridges or tunnels.