Prepare to uncouple -- uncouple.

Oz ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - Jun 15, 2005 6:57:38 am PDT #2063 of 10001
brillig

Why deny your children information that will keep them safe and healthy?

It's not a question of keeping them safe and healthy, it's a question of getting them into heaven. For a very long time, poverty was dismissed as irrelevant because this world didn't matter, accepting your lot in life with a proper spirit was, because you were laying up treasure in heaven and you would receive your due there.


§ ita § - Jun 15, 2005 6:57:42 am PDT #2064 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can I quote that?

Be my guest. Except, it's not what I meant to say.

If you don't admit you're vulnerable, maybe the world won't notice.

So if that's the quote you need, it's all yours.


Connie Neil - Jun 15, 2005 6:58:08 am PDT #2065 of 10001
brillig

Their souls are more important than their bodies?

To a lot of people, yes. Bodies die, souls are forever.


tommyrot - Jun 15, 2005 6:59:46 am PDT #2066 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh, I can't find a link right now... but there's this disease that condoms cannot prevent (I forget what). Anyway, scientists have developed a vaccine for it. Now some Christian groups are saying that the vaccine should not be released, because if it is then that's sending a message that it's OK to have sex....


Allyson - Jun 15, 2005 6:59:56 am PDT #2067 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

For a very long time, poverty was dismissed as irrelevant because this world didn't matter

It's a wonderful way to keep people complacent, docile.


Gudanov - Jun 15, 2005 7:00:06 am PDT #2068 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I just don't understand why they would do this when the lie is hurting their children.

Because then you have "facts" to support favoring programs that will score points with the Christian Right and allow you to dismiss objections from opponents who might want to point out weaknesses with the programs. The actual truth isn't really the point.


Connie Neil - Jun 15, 2005 7:00:35 am PDT #2069 of 10001
brillig

It's a wonderful way to keep people complacent, docile.

It was a useful side effect of the theory, yes.


Rick - Jun 15, 2005 7:00:46 am PDT #2070 of 10001

Shouldn't it be called a meta-analysis, if it was only a re-analysis of somebody else's data?

A meta-analysis is when you combine the results of many previous studies together. So, for instance, you find the correlation between x and y reported in each of 30 previous studies and then are able to conclude that this correlation is higher under some conditions (the conditions present in some studies) than under others. Meta-analysis is a good way to find out how variables like age or sex or race or socioeconomic status affect treatment, because no individual study will have enough variation on those characteristics to answer the question. But if you combine across studies you can ask new and interesting questions.

Both the original Virginity Pledge study and this fake one were based on the same publicly available data set. Any researcher can get the data and check the results, which is why this new 'study' provides such a good example of conservative propaganda.


Gudanov - Jun 15, 2005 7:01:37 am PDT #2071 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Anyway, scientists have developed a vaccine for it.

I think it is cervical cancer.


Rick - Jun 15, 2005 7:04:08 am PDT #2072 of 10001

Oh, I can't find a link right now... but there's this disease that condoms cannot prevent (I forget what). Anyway, scientists have developed a vaccine for it. Now some Christian groups are saying that the vaccine should not be released, because if it is then that's sending a message that it's OK to have sex....

I think it is cervical cancer.

HPV, which is a risk factor for some forms of cervical cancer.