Everyone's getting spanked but me.

Willow ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - Jun 15, 2005 7:00:35 am PDT #2069 of 10001
brillig

It's a wonderful way to keep people complacent, docile.

It was a useful side effect of the theory, yes.


Rick - Jun 15, 2005 7:00:46 am PDT #2070 of 10001

Shouldn't it be called a meta-analysis, if it was only a re-analysis of somebody else's data?

A meta-analysis is when you combine the results of many previous studies together. So, for instance, you find the correlation between x and y reported in each of 30 previous studies and then are able to conclude that this correlation is higher under some conditions (the conditions present in some studies) than under others. Meta-analysis is a good way to find out how variables like age or sex or race or socioeconomic status affect treatment, because no individual study will have enough variation on those characteristics to answer the question. But if you combine across studies you can ask new and interesting questions.

Both the original Virginity Pledge study and this fake one were based on the same publicly available data set. Any researcher can get the data and check the results, which is why this new 'study' provides such a good example of conservative propaganda.


Gudanov - Jun 15, 2005 7:01:37 am PDT #2071 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Anyway, scientists have developed a vaccine for it.

I think it is cervical cancer.


Rick - Jun 15, 2005 7:04:08 am PDT #2072 of 10001

Oh, I can't find a link right now... but there's this disease that condoms cannot prevent (I forget what). Anyway, scientists have developed a vaccine for it. Now some Christian groups are saying that the vaccine should not be released, because if it is then that's sending a message that it's OK to have sex....

I think it is cervical cancer.

HPV, which is a risk factor for some forms of cervical cancer.


tommyrot - Jun 15, 2005 7:04:33 am PDT #2073 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think it is cervical cancer.

Yeah, I think that's it.

Because they want the fear of cervical cancer to keep women all virginous until marriage....


Fred Pete - Jun 15, 2005 7:12:56 am PDT #2074 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

My mother has played that game -- her argument (usually in connection with abortion) is that if you have sex, you should be prepared to accept the consequences.

I never had the nerve to ask her if she applies the same reasoning to other activities, oh, say, smoking. (FTR, her brother has suffered from smoking-related health problems.)


Laura - Jun 15, 2005 7:13:00 am PDT #2075 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Autopsy: Schiavo Blind, Brain Damaged June 15 (AP) — An autopsy on Terri Schiavo backed her husband's contention that she was in a persistent vegetative state, finding that she had massive and irreversible brain damage and was blind, the medical examiner's office said Wednesday. It also found no evidence that she was strangled or otherwise abused.

[link]

Not that this is a surprise.


Nutty - Jun 15, 2005 7:13:08 am PDT #2076 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

HPV, rather. Huma Papilloma Virus. Which is the chief culprit in cervical cancer, and a lot of infertility cases, and I don't know what else.

but there's this disease that condoms cannot prevent (I forget what). Anyway, scientists have developed a vaccine for it. Now some Christian groups are saying that the vaccine should not be released, because if it is then that's sending a message that it's OK to have sex....

The way this is phrased, of course, you could be talking about the flu. Of course, to some on this earth, they'd be happy to outlaw the flu vaccine too, on the off chance that being healthy and not sneezing might lead to sex.

One of the things I've always liked about formal public policy is that it is risk-factors and outcomes, that's all. Sex only matters to government because it is a risk-factor for a bunch of things that cost the government money and cause the government's boss (citizens) to suffer.

After that it becomes a question of Where in the relationship of risk factors to outcomes is it (a) realistic and (b) affordable to intervene? Intervening at the "human nature" stage strikes me as 100 kinds of silly, and is by the way a lot more ambitious than most government programs would ever attempt.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 15, 2005 7:18:44 am PDT #2077 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

June 15 (AP) — An autopsy on Terri Schiavo backed her husband's contention that she was in a persistent vegetative state, finding that she had massive and irreversible brain damage and was blind, the medical examiner's office said Wednesday. It also found no evidence that she was strangled or otherwise abused.

Waits for the uproar over activist coroners.


tommyrot - Jun 15, 2005 7:19:47 am PDT #2078 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Waits for the uproar over activist coroners.

Heh.

Stupid reality-based autopsies....