Wash: I'm not leaving her side, Mal. Don't ask me again. Mal: I wasn't asking. I was telling.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Rick - Jun 15, 2005 7:04:08 am PDT #2072 of 10001

Oh, I can't find a link right now... but there's this disease that condoms cannot prevent (I forget what). Anyway, scientists have developed a vaccine for it. Now some Christian groups are saying that the vaccine should not be released, because if it is then that's sending a message that it's OK to have sex....

I think it is cervical cancer.

HPV, which is a risk factor for some forms of cervical cancer.


tommyrot - Jun 15, 2005 7:04:33 am PDT #2073 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think it is cervical cancer.

Yeah, I think that's it.

Because they want the fear of cervical cancer to keep women all virginous until marriage....


Fred Pete - Jun 15, 2005 7:12:56 am PDT #2074 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

My mother has played that game -- her argument (usually in connection with abortion) is that if you have sex, you should be prepared to accept the consequences.

I never had the nerve to ask her if she applies the same reasoning to other activities, oh, say, smoking. (FTR, her brother has suffered from smoking-related health problems.)


Laura - Jun 15, 2005 7:13:00 am PDT #2075 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Autopsy: Schiavo Blind, Brain Damaged June 15 (AP) — An autopsy on Terri Schiavo backed her husband's contention that she was in a persistent vegetative state, finding that she had massive and irreversible brain damage and was blind, the medical examiner's office said Wednesday. It also found no evidence that she was strangled or otherwise abused.

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Not that this is a surprise.


Nutty - Jun 15, 2005 7:13:08 am PDT #2076 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

HPV, rather. Huma Papilloma Virus. Which is the chief culprit in cervical cancer, and a lot of infertility cases, and I don't know what else.

but there's this disease that condoms cannot prevent (I forget what). Anyway, scientists have developed a vaccine for it. Now some Christian groups are saying that the vaccine should not be released, because if it is then that's sending a message that it's OK to have sex....

The way this is phrased, of course, you could be talking about the flu. Of course, to some on this earth, they'd be happy to outlaw the flu vaccine too, on the off chance that being healthy and not sneezing might lead to sex.

One of the things I've always liked about formal public policy is that it is risk-factors and outcomes, that's all. Sex only matters to government because it is a risk-factor for a bunch of things that cost the government money and cause the government's boss (citizens) to suffer.

After that it becomes a question of Where in the relationship of risk factors to outcomes is it (a) realistic and (b) affordable to intervene? Intervening at the "human nature" stage strikes me as 100 kinds of silly, and is by the way a lot more ambitious than most government programs would ever attempt.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 15, 2005 7:18:44 am PDT #2077 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

June 15 (AP) — An autopsy on Terri Schiavo backed her husband's contention that she was in a persistent vegetative state, finding that she had massive and irreversible brain damage and was blind, the medical examiner's office said Wednesday. It also found no evidence that she was strangled or otherwise abused.

Waits for the uproar over activist coroners.


tommyrot - Jun 15, 2005 7:19:47 am PDT #2078 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Waits for the uproar over activist coroners.

Heh.

Stupid reality-based autopsies....


askye - Jun 15, 2005 7:25:15 am PDT #2079 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I know what people are going to say -- "they" are covering up the truth, that it's a consipracy and there will be implicatiosn that "they" paid off the officials to get the autopsy report that "they" wanted.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 15, 2005 7:26:16 am PDT #2080 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Stupid reality-based autopsies....

I swear, the neo-cons have taken Reagan's "Facts are stupid things" and really fucking ran with it.


Gudanov - Jun 15, 2005 7:32:38 am PDT #2081 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I went to Focus on the Family to see their take on the Schiavo news, but it looks like it is too soon for a report. They did have a take on the Heritage report though:

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