We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus.

Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Jun 14, 2005 6:57:18 am PDT #1760 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Yeah, but those aren't Christ's words -- those are Paul's.

Nonetheless, Romans seems to be where everyone goes when talking about how the bible condemns homosexuality.

That is true, absolutely.

I just have this thing where I think that a faith called "Christianity" should focus on what Christ said and taught, and NSM on what Paul said. Because he was a bit of a nutter.

People who want to focus on Paul, go start Paulianity. Good luck to you.

Because Christ's message, overall, boiled down to "Hey, love each other, right? Take care of each other, duh." There was nothing in Christ's message about God hating fags.

Man. I like God, I'm good with Jesus, but what people do in their names is just a travesty all too often.


Connie Neil - Jun 14, 2005 6:58:17 am PDT #1761 of 10001
brillig

I just have this thing where I think that a faith called "Christianity" should focus on what Christ said and taught, and NSM on what Paul said. Because he was a bit of a nutter.

People who want to focus on Paul, go start Paulianity. Good luck to you.

Wrod. And take your quivering fear-of-the-other with you.


Steph L. - Jun 14, 2005 6:59:07 am PDT #1762 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

One caveat, that's more confined to the ritual purity laws. You're unlikely to hear anyone say we are not to follow the 10 commandments, for example. The true gist of the teaching is that it is not the law (any of it, not just the purity laws) that saves. Christ's sacrifice saves. The law points out where we do sin.

Absolutely -- I was going to mention all that, but I was afraid it would become a dissertation on salvation, and ain't nobody wanting that this morning.


Connie Neil - Jun 14, 2005 7:00:50 am PDT #1763 of 10001
brillig

In an addenda to Paul's interpretations of Christ's simple words, it just struck me as interesting that the 10 Commandments are fairly simple, yet the huge construction of Talmudic law was put together when people said, "but how does that apply to X?" Paul strikes me as doing a Talmudic interpretation of Christ's seemingly straightforward statements, trying to nail them down to cover every contingency.


Kat - Jun 14, 2005 7:02:36 am PDT #1764 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

hmm, Kat, perhaps you are right, I should just say that we netted X amount.

I think as long as you acknowledge which one you are using, it's fine. Or you could say $X raised with a net blah blah blah (don't know the term) of $X. Which is what I've seen LLS do.


Nutty - Jun 14, 2005 7:04:01 am PDT #1765 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

People who want to focus on Paul, go start Paulianity. Good luck to you.

Ha! This is cute. But even if I were the sort to worship, I don't think I'd worship somebody whose first claim to fame was falling off a donkey.

(Side note: Casper the Amazing Wonder Niece loves to talk about donkeys. Why donkeys? I never found out! How can a toddler tell a donkey from a horse? I have no idea! I think it is just the funness of the word 'donkey'.)

(Soon enough, we will transfer her to 'monkey' and her Buffistadom will be complete.)

(Casper likes carrots.)


Emily - Jun 14, 2005 7:06:02 am PDT #1766 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Nutty, we felt awful bad for you last night. NStar turned our power on much sooner than I expected them to (although of course they turned it off in the first place, rather than it going out in some way they have to figure out and then fix, as in your case).


Nutty - Jun 14, 2005 7:19:33 am PDT #1767 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Yeah, they were fixing your power, instead of mine!! My mother called me up upon watching the 11pm news (I was 1 hour asleep by then) and reported that about 6000 people had lost power. I was like, "That's nice, but I'm not one of those people. I can look out my window and see tantalizing, luscious electricity only one block away.

If I hadn't slept in a severe state of undress, due to the unameliorated heat, I would have run outside and thanked the NSTAR guys this morning.


Kathy A - Jun 14, 2005 7:21:50 am PDT #1768 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Jesus was very wise and cool. Paul has some major league issues.

This brings to mind Lee Hays' (of the Weavers) quote: "When Paul and Barnabas would come to town, they'd set sex back a few hundred years..."


Emily - Jun 14, 2005 7:22:27 am PDT #1769 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

It was a rotten day for the power to go out.

Particularly if the traffic is also disturbed so that you have to walk about 6 extra blocks to get home from the bus. Actually, the walk was kind of nice -- hot, but there were breezes -- but stepping inside was awful.