Fred: The size and depth of the wound indicate a female vampire. Harmony: Or gay! Fred: Um…it doesn't really work like that.

'Harm's Way'


Spike's Bitches 24: I'm Very Seldom Naughty.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


DavidS - May 19, 2005 10:22:41 am PDT #160 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Jen, I think you just need to talk to him very directly about it. Just lay out the facts and let him come clean, and then explain how it pinged you in a negative way. This needs some straightforward communication, and he needs to learn some things about being with you.

Also, he will be impressed/scared by your kickass detective work.


-t - May 19, 2005 10:24:00 am PDT #161 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

My problem is that he actively engaged in pretense

Maybe not. Maybe he googled you, followed the link to the page but didn't really read it (if you google yourself, is there a lot of stuff? Is it obviously you?), and didn't recognize the URL when you gave it to him.


§ ita § - May 19, 2005 10:24:39 am PDT #162 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think he is

He may be scared of losing you. That doesn't have to be dependent on his history. He might like you a lot, plain and simple.


Calli - May 19, 2005 10:24:54 am PDT #163 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Thanks, ita!


Jen - May 19, 2005 10:25:35 am PDT #164 of 10001
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

Yeah, I guess it is. I just thought given the ad nauseum Trust Issues conversations we've had, he would find it easier to make that choice.

Seriously, if I never knew about this and a year from now he said, "Hey, remember how you gave me your URL? I found it on Google and had read some stuff before," I wouldn't be upset in the slightest.

It's the fact that he had the perfect opportunity to come clean and make good on his transparency promises, and he didn't, because he thought I would never find out. I can't help but think now that there are other things about which he thinks I'll never find out.

Maybe he googled you, followed the link to the page but didn't really read it (if you google yourself, is there a lot of stuff? Is it obviously you?), and didn't recognize the URL when you gave it to him.

-t, my full name is unusual, so it's obviously me (ironically, he said "the poems on your site are so much you; I can hear your voice in them."). The URL of my site isn't exactly common, either.

I think I'll spend some time calming down and then bring it up in as unaccusatory and defensive way as possible. Thanks for your input, Bitches--I really, really appreciate it.


Scrappy - May 19, 2005 10:26:24 am PDT #165 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

That's kinda dismissive of him, Jen. I mean, he can have a lot invested in this relationship being a success without having the same background you have. The woman my brother just married had only had one serious relationship and he was divorced with three kids. She never had her heart really broken and he had just recently been dumped. He was a recovering alcoholic with a rocky past and she was a healthy person. I am certain however, from talking with her, that she would have been as devastated as he would have been if things hadn't worked out. For her, it was more fear of losing something she'd never had and for him it was fear that his wounded heart was going to be stomped on again, but they both were equally invested in their own ways.


Connie Neil - May 19, 2005 10:26:31 am PDT #166 of 10001
brillig

Which is, ironically, I think why he lied about it.

Yeah, I can't imagine it would be easy to say, "Oh, by the way, in regards to trust issues, I've been looking you up on the Internet." The timing would be way iffy.


Sparky1 - May 19, 2005 10:28:20 am PDT #167 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

and he didn't, because he thought I would never find out.

Jen, this is, I think, where you need to clear things up. You're making an assumption here, and it might be misplaced. He might have only thought, "ack! I don't want her to think I'm creepy stalker guy!" and never knew or considered that you would find out.


Jen - May 19, 2005 10:29:45 am PDT #168 of 10001
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

That's kinda dismissive of him, Jen.

I wouldn't say he's less scared unless that was what he'd told me himself, honest. I can only judge by what he's said, and he's said over and over that he's never dealt with issues like these before and knows how much harder this is for me than him.

Edit: Good point, Sparky. I hadn't thought of it that way.


Topic!Cindy - May 19, 2005 10:31:40 am PDT #169 of 10001
What is even happening?

Jen, you could just ask him. I mean, you told him about the site. You're techno-literate, and know people google their dates. So you could just mention it, straightforwardly, to him--not as an accusation, and not with any guile. You could just say, "I was checking my referrer logs and am glad you like my site. Why didn't you tell me you'd already seen it?" You might feel more reassured, hearing it from him.