There was a decent Steve/Darcy somewhere on AO3.
She ain't movin'. Serenity's not movin'.
Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'
Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?
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juliana - May 30, 2012 4:33:10 pm PDT #7743 of 10434
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
Zenkitty - May 30, 2012 4:55:54 pm PDT #7744 of 10434
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Darcy Lewis as a Mary Sue proxy
I thought she was deliberately written that way.
Consuela - May 30, 2012 5:00:22 pm PDT #7745 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
I'm with Dana: I really enjoy reading the Darcy stories, even though probably because she's a reader-proxy.
Which, frankly, I think is different than a Mary Sue. A Mary Sue is, IME, a writer proxy, with powers out of proportion with her position, and a tendency to warp the narrative around her rather like a black hole. The canon characters get bent out of shape near a Mary Sue because she absorbs all the awesome to her and they are forced to react as if she's legitimate, although the writing generally doesn't substantiate that.
Dana - May 30, 2012 5:12:50 pm PDT #7746 of 10434
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
And her presence pretty much enabled Thor to pass the Bechdel test (barely), so I'm not complaining.
Zenkitty - May 30, 2012 5:15:01 pm PDT #7747 of 10434
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
The Bechdel test is two women talking to each other about something other than men, right?
Consuela - May 30, 2012 5:16:09 pm PDT #7748 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Right.
Sadly, Avengers failed it, but at least we got Black Widow kicking ass.
WindSparrow - May 30, 2012 7:04:56 pm PDT #7749 of 10434
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
There is something I'm not clear about with the Bechdel Test. If the two women - say, a female homicide detective and a female medical examiner - are discussing a case, and the corpse in question has a penis, does that fail? Or does it pass on the grounds that they were talking about the work that they are doing?
Dana - May 30, 2012 7:14:35 pm PDT #7750 of 10434
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
It's usually a question of whether or not it's a romantic interest, or a man who takes up the woman's whole life. Like, if the whole movie is about a woman taking care of her brother, and she talks only with her friend about that brother, that wouldn't pass the test for me.
§ ita § - May 31, 2012 5:49:41 am PDT #7751 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
What difference does it make to you in practice if a work passes or fails the test? If not in practice, then in theory?
Consuela - May 31, 2012 6:29:38 am PDT #7752 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
What difference does it make to you in practice if a work passes or fails the test? If not in practice, then in theory?
It's not a question of whether a particular movie passes, really: it's more a question of how many movies fail to pass, and what that says about the Hollywood system.
So I'm not going to penalize a movie for failing the Bechdel test (neither Haywire nor The Avengers passed it, after all), but I pay attention to movies & tv shows that pass it, because they generally tend to have women do more interesting things.