This girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right?

Dawn ,'Never Leave Me'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Stephanie - Aug 03, 2011 8:53:43 am PDT #7180 of 10434
Trust my rage

So, I agree that Jess was fridged, but is it "ok" if it is to set up the entire series? Was Mary fridged? I'm mostly just curious because this isn't something I have thought a lot about.


§ ita § - Aug 03, 2011 8:58:46 am PDT #7181 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think Mary turned out to have been fridged, since she got herself killed, and revealed herself to be a protagonist, not an accessory to the big plot. But up until that, sure. And that agency makes it absolutely not a fridging for me.


Amy - Aug 03, 2011 9:03:15 am PDT #7182 of 10434
Because books.

I hated that they killed off Jo and Ellen--it was (for me), the last straw, and I stopped watching the show at that point.

I grieved -- I'd never cried that hard during the show before -- but it was war. Some people are not going to survive. I was very appreciative that a) we got to see them that season, and b) they were active participants, not just victims.

I know in the real world, it would be just as likely for Sam or Dean to have died a million times on the hunt, but the truth is, it's their show. And they've already died quite a few times for major protagonists, honestly.


Stephanie - Aug 03, 2011 11:22:21 am PDT #7183 of 10434
Trust my rage

That makes sense about Mary, ita. I think what I'm thinking of is this. Is fridging categorically bad? Because Jess' death seems critical to the story they wanted to tell. And they could have developed her more and given her some agency if she died in ep5 or something, but when she dies in the pilot, there's just not enough time to give her much of a story.


§ ita § - Aug 03, 2011 11:36:46 am PDT #7184 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think fridging is bad when it's typically how you treat your women and/or secondary characters.


Stephanie - Aug 03, 2011 11:51:29 am PDT #7185 of 10434
Trust my rage

That makes sense.


Consuela - Aug 06, 2011 3:29:26 pm PDT #7186 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, Narnia fandom. The only fandom I know of where you get reviewed for the theological correctness of your fiction. ::facepalm::


§ ita § - Aug 06, 2011 4:53:48 pm PDT #7187 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Never happened to you in Supernatural?


Consuela - Aug 06, 2011 6:44:46 pm PDT #7188 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Never happened to you in Supernatural?

Heh, nope. For one thing, SPN fans don't care about, you know, real-world theology in a religious way. SPN doesn't have the same relationship to Christianity that Narnia does--Kripke never intended to be writing an allegory, after all.

For another, I stopped writing SPN about the same time the show went seriously down the whole angels-demons-God path, and I was never really interested in that whole area of the story.


Consuela - Aug 06, 2011 6:48:16 pm PDT #7189 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Anyway, the point is that I got a nice piece of feedback that also included commentary about how there was some "heretical statements" in the story, that certainly Lewis would have found heretical as well as the anonymous commenter.