I don't think Mary turned out to have been fridged, since she got herself killed, and revealed herself to be a protagonist, not an accessory to the big plot. But up until that, sure. And that agency makes it absolutely not a fridging for me.

I hated that they killed off Jo and Ellen--it was (for me), the last straw, and I stopped watching the show at that point.

I grieved -- I'd never cried that hard during the show before -- but it was war. Some people are not going to survive. I was very appreciative that a) we got to see them that season, and b) they were active participants, not just victims.

I know in the real world, it would be just as likely for Sam or Dean to have died a million times on the hunt, but the truth is, it's their show. And they've already died quite a few times for major protagonists, honestly.

That makes sense about Mary, ita. I think what I'm thinking of is this. Is fridging categorically bad? Because Jess' death seems critical to the story they wanted to tell. And they could have developed her more and given her some agency if she died in ep5 or something, but when she dies in the pilot, there's just not enough time to give her much of a story.

I think fridging is bad when it's typically how you treat your women and/or secondary characters.

That makes sense.

Oh, Narnia fandom. The only fandom I know of where you get reviewed for the theological correctness of your fiction. ::facepalm::

Never happened to you in Supernatural?

Never happened to you in Supernatural?

Heh, nope. For one thing, SPN fans don't care about, you know, real-world theology in a religious way. SPN doesn't have the same relationship to Christianity that Narnia does--Kripke never intended to be writing an allegory, after all.

For another, I stopped writing SPN about the same time the show went seriously down the whole angels-demons-God path, and I was never really interested in that whole area of the story.

Anyway, the point is that I got a nice piece of feedback that also included commentary about how there was some "heretical statements" in the story, that certainly Lewis would have found heretical as well as the anonymous commenter.

For one thing, SPN fans don't care about, you know, real-world theology in a religious wa

Not according to the people who flipped their nut at the pronunciation of Samhain (I've read at least 1 fixit fic for that episode), and theology started coming out of people's asscracks last S5.

But most of them don't treat the religion on the show as complimentarily showing anything they believe in. Doesn't mean they won't bitch about mythology and religious errors on show and in the fic.