Willow: Were there dolphins? Tara: Yes. Many dolphins at the pound. Willow: Was there a camel? Tara: There was the front of a camel. A half-camel.

'Selfless'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Stephanie - Aug 03, 2011 11:22:21 am PDT #7183 of 10434
Trust my rage

That makes sense about Mary, ita. I think what I'm thinking of is this. Is fridging categorically bad? Because Jess' death seems critical to the story they wanted to tell. And they could have developed her more and given her some agency if she died in ep5 or something, but when she dies in the pilot, there's just not enough time to give her much of a story.


§ ita § - Aug 03, 2011 11:36:46 am PDT #7184 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think fridging is bad when it's typically how you treat your women and/or secondary characters.


Stephanie - Aug 03, 2011 11:51:29 am PDT #7185 of 10434
Trust my rage

That makes sense.


Consuela - Aug 06, 2011 3:29:26 pm PDT #7186 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, Narnia fandom. The only fandom I know of where you get reviewed for the theological correctness of your fiction. ::facepalm::


§ ita § - Aug 06, 2011 4:53:48 pm PDT #7187 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Never happened to you in Supernatural?


Consuela - Aug 06, 2011 6:44:46 pm PDT #7188 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Never happened to you in Supernatural?

Heh, nope. For one thing, SPN fans don't care about, you know, real-world theology in a religious way. SPN doesn't have the same relationship to Christianity that Narnia does--Kripke never intended to be writing an allegory, after all.

For another, I stopped writing SPN about the same time the show went seriously down the whole angels-demons-God path, and I was never really interested in that whole area of the story.


Consuela - Aug 06, 2011 6:48:16 pm PDT #7189 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Anyway, the point is that I got a nice piece of feedback that also included commentary about how there was some "heretical statements" in the story, that certainly Lewis would have found heretical as well as the anonymous commenter.


§ ita § - Aug 06, 2011 7:02:54 pm PDT #7190 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For one thing, SPN fans don't care about, you know, real-world theology in a religious wa

Not according to the people who flipped their nut at the pronunciation of Samhain (I've read at least 1 fixit fic for that episode), and theology started coming out of people's asscracks last S5.

But most of them don't treat the religion on the show as complimentarily showing anything they believe in. Doesn't mean they won't bitch about mythology and religious errors on show and in the fic.


Consuela - Aug 06, 2011 7:11:39 pm PDT #7191 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Not according to the people who flipped their nut at the pronunciation of Samhain (I've read at least 1 fixit fic for that episode), and theology started coming out of people's asscracks last S5.

Point. And yet, I'm not explaining it properly. Some Christians read Narnia because it's Christian allegory, and they claim that it represents religious truth because it's Christian allegory. And that's part of the reason why Lewis wrote it.

SPN fans aren't (I don't think) finding religious truth in the show, that's not why they're watching it, even if they find the religious content interesting.


Amy - Aug 06, 2011 7:21:06 pm PDT #7192 of 10434
Because books.

SPN fans aren't (I don't think) finding religious truth in the show, that's not why they're watching it, even if they find the religious content interesting.

This. Or that's the way I read it.

Narnia is a whole world I know so little about. I mean, I know Lewis's reputation as a religious scholar, and I know the religious meanings of the story, but I somehow skipped over the series as a kid, and never went back to it. It's fascinating -- I loved the first movie, and I think the layers of the story and symbolism are really interesting as well as being a damn good story -- but I can't imagine reading the series, or the fic, *as* a religious text. That's just a whole other level of ... something.