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Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Amy - Jul 11, 2011 4:15:13 pm PDT #7070 of 10434
Because books.

Didn't the Time article say he was okay with fanfic? I can't remember now, but if he's okay with that, he's probably fine with art, too. Or I would assume so.


Dana - Jul 11, 2011 4:23:49 pm PDT #7071 of 10434
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

GRRM is not particularly okay with fanfic, no. Unless he's changed his stance recently.


Dana - Jul 11, 2011 4:27:08 pm PDT #7072 of 10434
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Wikipedia sez:

Martin is strongly opposed to any type of fan fiction, believing it to be copyright infringement and a bad exercise for all aspiring writers.[citation needed] He never gives permission for any of his intellectual property to be used in fan fiction.


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2011 4:31:53 pm PDT #7073 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

GRRM's actually the first person when I think of embargo on fanfic. Then Anne Rice, then Ursula K Le Guin.


Amy - Jul 11, 2011 4:32:15 pm PDT #7074 of 10434
Because books.

Oh! Maybe in the Time article he was named as one of the authors who is against it, then. Oops.

Thanks, Dana.


Typo Boy - Jul 11, 2011 7:09:17 pm PDT #7075 of 10434
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

It will surprise nobody that today's XKCD has already inspired actual Strunk & White fanfiction.


JZ - Jul 12, 2011 5:18:49 am PDT #7076 of 10434
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Random fanfic-peripheral questions prompted by a new playlist on a car ride over the weekend: does there exist yet a Kurt/Blaine Glee vid to the Smiths' "Ask"? And if not, why not?

I mean, for crap's sake, YouTube just informed me that someone has used that song for a Thomas the Tank Engine vid. Surely Morrissey deserves better than that.


Consuela - Jul 12, 2011 6:43:27 am PDT #7077 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

GRRM's actually the first person when I think of embargo on fanfic. Then Anne Rice, then Ursula K Le Guin.

I think of Anne Rice, Robin Hobb, and Diana Gabaldon. UKL makes me a bit sad, but I try not to think about it, because she's otherwise so awesome, and she's still writing great stuff into her 80s.

I have more respect for authors like Jo Walton, who admit their reaction is entirely emotional, than people like GRRM, who blather about copyright incorrectly. Or for people like Gabaldon, who claim fanfiction is just like pedophilia and voyeurism.

Anyway, I wish someone could explain to these people that regardless of what their editors tell them, you cannot lose your copyright because someone writes a genderswap MPREG using your characters' names. IP law does not work like that!


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2011 7:12:46 am PDT #7078 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jo Walton scares me, frankly, because her reaction is so emotional and strong. Gabaldon, too, comes to mind. Robin Hobb, not so much. But GRRM kvetching incorrectly is definitely #1.


Consuela - Jul 12, 2011 7:22:05 am PDT #7079 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Jo Walton scares me, frankly, because her reaction is so emotional and strong

Yeah, it's a bit OTT. OTOH, the likelihood of much fic being written for her stuff is minimal, unless there's a secret Tooth and Claw fandom out there I'm not aware of. (Yuletide notwithstanding)