You know, with the exception of one deadly and unpredictable midget, this girl is the smallest cargo I've ever had to transport. Yet by far the most troublesome. Does that seem right to you?

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Dana - Jul 11, 2011 4:27:08 pm PDT #7072 of 10434
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Wikipedia sez:

Martin is strongly opposed to any type of fan fiction, believing it to be copyright infringement and a bad exercise for all aspiring writers.[citation needed] He never gives permission for any of his intellectual property to be used in fan fiction.


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2011 4:31:53 pm PDT #7073 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

GRRM's actually the first person when I think of embargo on fanfic. Then Anne Rice, then Ursula K Le Guin.


Amy - Jul 11, 2011 4:32:15 pm PDT #7074 of 10434
Because books.

Oh! Maybe in the Time article he was named as one of the authors who is against it, then. Oops.

Thanks, Dana.


Typo Boy - Jul 11, 2011 7:09:17 pm PDT #7075 of 10434
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

It will surprise nobody that today's XKCD has already inspired actual Strunk & White fanfiction.


JZ - Jul 12, 2011 5:18:49 am PDT #7076 of 10434
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Random fanfic-peripheral questions prompted by a new playlist on a car ride over the weekend: does there exist yet a Kurt/Blaine Glee vid to the Smiths' "Ask"? And if not, why not?

I mean, for crap's sake, YouTube just informed me that someone has used that song for a Thomas the Tank Engine vid. Surely Morrissey deserves better than that.


Consuela - Jul 12, 2011 6:43:27 am PDT #7077 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

GRRM's actually the first person when I think of embargo on fanfic. Then Anne Rice, then Ursula K Le Guin.

I think of Anne Rice, Robin Hobb, and Diana Gabaldon. UKL makes me a bit sad, but I try not to think about it, because she's otherwise so awesome, and she's still writing great stuff into her 80s.

I have more respect for authors like Jo Walton, who admit their reaction is entirely emotional, than people like GRRM, who blather about copyright incorrectly. Or for people like Gabaldon, who claim fanfiction is just like pedophilia and voyeurism.

Anyway, I wish someone could explain to these people that regardless of what their editors tell them, you cannot lose your copyright because someone writes a genderswap MPREG using your characters' names. IP law does not work like that!


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2011 7:12:46 am PDT #7078 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jo Walton scares me, frankly, because her reaction is so emotional and strong. Gabaldon, too, comes to mind. Robin Hobb, not so much. But GRRM kvetching incorrectly is definitely #1.


Consuela - Jul 12, 2011 7:22:05 am PDT #7079 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Jo Walton scares me, frankly, because her reaction is so emotional and strong

Yeah, it's a bit OTT. OTOH, the likelihood of much fic being written for her stuff is minimal, unless there's a secret Tooth and Claw fandom out there I'm not aware of. (Yuletide notwithstanding)


Dana - Jul 12, 2011 7:30:17 am PDT #7080 of 10434
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It just helps me compile a list of who to avoid. My life is too short.


Amy - Jul 12, 2011 8:16:12 am PDT #7081 of 10434
Because books.

There are a couple of YA writers out there who seem to love the fanart that they see. Haven't seen anything about their reactions to possible fic, though.

It's a weird thing -- I think despite how much fanfic is out there, and how much more available it is now on the internet, the bulk of any writer's fans (up to now) is probably never going to have any contact with it. And no matter what writers would like to believe about their ownership of their work, once you make it public, readers will have reactions, and discussions, and some of them will take it many steps further to fanworks. It's just the way people are.

I can see being horrified, let's say, if you're Rowling, and you stumble across a story where Snape is seducing an underaged Harry or something, but in terms of actually affecting the scope or reputation of your novels? It doesn't.