No. You're missing the point. The design of the thing is functional. The plan is not to shoot you. The plan is to get the girl. If there's no girl, then the plan, well, is like the room.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


§ ita § - Dec 15, 2009 11:27:02 am PST #6377 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In canon, DiNozzo has an absent mother and a callous father who disinherited him. There isn't much else specified. I'd imagine ficcers would like to explain his rampant capers and caddishness with childhood pain.

As for Ianto, I think of the lies he apparently told Torchwood about his father and I just see him as ripe for fanon exploitation.

But Daniel--he's just so exploited in the text that you barely have to lift a finger in fanon.

Still, list needs Batman. And G Callen.

It kinda makes me roll my eyes at the fannish preoccupation with manpain

See, but manpain's funny.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 15, 2009 12:01:14 pm PST #6378 of 10434
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

As DiNozzo has exhibited the maturity of a third grader in every episode of NCIS I've ever watched, I would assume that current events can still be counted toward his childhood misery.


sumi - Dec 15, 2009 12:09:30 pm PST #6379 of 10434
Art Crawl!!!

Has DiNozzo's father ever been on the show?


P.M. Marc - Dec 15, 2009 12:39:29 pm PST #6380 of 10434
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Unless we're talking about entire fanon manpain.

I believe we are.

I find this very hard to believe. But it's one of the very few where I'm familiar enough with both candidates to even have an opinion.

Admittedly, my X-Files fic reading is generally such classics as a Fish Called Krycek, but I've seen a LOT more fanon around Kirk's Miserable Childhood (reboot). Like, there was a point where I thought every other story came with a child abuse warning in that fandom.

The Krycek stuff I've seen is mostly adult whumpage.

(Poor Sam, coming right before Wesley in the alphabet. Fanon Wes manages to have an even crummier childhood than either Winchester's fanon. AND THAT IS HARD TO DO.)


brenda m - Dec 15, 2009 12:54:29 pm PST #6381 of 10434
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The Krycek stuff I've seen is mostly adult whumpage.

Really? No wathcing his collaborator parents killed in front of him only to be raised by the [memfault] Syndicate or whatever XF called them, trained in Russian gulags to be a souless assassin through sexual, physical and mental abuse? Because I'm pretty sure I recall a shit-ton of that.


§ ita § - Dec 15, 2009 1:15:01 pm PST #6382 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Has DiNozzo's father ever been on the show?

No. Not yet. I can tell you more about the planned details if you want: Robert Wagner will be playing his father in the next episode or two.


P.M. Marc - Dec 15, 2009 1:30:35 pm PST #6383 of 10434
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Really? No wathcing his collaborator parents killed in front of him only to be raised by the [memfault] Syndicate or whatever XF called them, trained in Russian gulags to be a souless assassin through sexual, physical and mental abuse? Because I'm pretty sure I recall a shit-ton of that.

Clearly, my reading bias is showing! For I have seen none of that. (X Files reading for me is about 95% utter crack, 5% MSR.)


sumi - Dec 15, 2009 2:14:38 pm PST #6384 of 10434
Art Crawl!!!

Thanks!


Consuela - Dec 15, 2009 6:58:14 pm PST #6385 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I think the nu!Kirk stuff is far more fresh in people's minds than the Krycek stuff, which is why Kirk is winning. Also, Tarsus IV! (Which is apparently fanon in the new fandom.)

I think there were no women because, hey, MANPAIN. Fans find manpain appealing, but womanpain NSM.


P.M. Marc - Dec 15, 2009 7:28:50 pm PST #6386 of 10434
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think there were no women because, hey, MANPAIN. Fans find manpain appealing, but womanpain NSM.

There was Parker.

I enjoy manpain over most womanpain, because most (not all, but most) womanpain hits too close to the bone. Hell, it's been the big block for me in writing any serious always-a-girl Winchester stories. Remove the XY layer of abstraction for me from the worst of it, and I go sympathetic fetal.