I'm...not sure what that means. Maybe I wasn't clear in my spluttering.
My irritation with this whole thing is almost entirely from the way it was handled. If LJ had taken down comms dedicated to incest fiction, I honestly wouldn't have been surprised. They are a business, and their profitability and liability is much more of a priority than fannish satisfaction. Also, you won't catch me listing incest in my interests, even if it was something I read. (I checked, and the worst thing I had was "gay vampire snuff porn." Does anyone even remember where that joke originated?)
But the way they went about it was insane, from a PR standpoint (as I have already rambled on about), and now, at the end, to come back and say, "Whoops, half of those 500 deletions were totally wrong?" After the CEO was quoted in the CNET article saying he'd be surprised if more than "a dozen" were wrongly deleted?
I feel like I'm back in school, reading a case study of how not to do things.
I checked, and the worst thing I had was "gay vampire snuff porn." Does anyone even remember where that joke originated?
Nope, but it's an excellent way to find other 'fistas... I mean, were I the kind to have that in my interests. *koff*
I did a threadsuck and I found this from Due South: Mountie Fetishists from Fay:
I bit my lip before playing the "Hey, I write fiction about the Jossverse & Smallville characters and publish it online. Up to and including gay vampire snuff porn" card, because that may have been TMI. Especially since it was a temp job.
But I'm not sure if that's the first mention.
And Jessica mentions it on June 17, 2002
Since two of the most religious Christian women I know are probably either reading or writing gay vampire snuff porn at this very moment, I just had to laugh.
But I have no idea if that is the first mention or not.
Us? Obsessive? Nah.
I had the feeling Fay might have been involved.
Somehow I connect that phrase with Fay. I'm probably wrong...but that is where my brain goes.
eta - nice x-post
My irritation with this whole thing is almost entirely from the way it was handled.
Dana is me. I've been tracking it pretty carefully on my LJ, and with some caution in how I phrased things, because I really didn't want to get into the relative morality of incest-fic and chan and actual pedophilia. And I still had a narrowly-averted flamewar in my comments.
I think Katie's right: can we have a nice simple shipping war now? I'm tired of the meta. Tired of fandom; it's too much work.
At this point, I just kind of want to see people posting more freaking stories.
I am fresh out of meta. And there's not enough porn.
(Where porn = apparently, if you are me, entirely gen stories with a side of angst. Because of the aforementioned porn is broken problem. Which is, as Fay'd say, pants.)
At this point, I just kind of want to see people posting more freaking stories.
Seriously. What used to be three ginourmous piles of to be read fic (bedroom, living room, and work) is now down to one pretty small pile at work.
I checked, and the worst thing I had was "gay vampire snuff porn." Does anyone even remember where that joke originated?)
raises hand
It...it seemed to be a factually accurate but hilariously awful description of stories I was reading. And writing. (And indeed of the Angel-Lindsey-Darla story arc onscreen, amongst other Jossian delights. And of most of Anne Rice's ouvre [pre her Saul-like conversion to writing RPF about the lord Jesus Christ, rather than homoerotic vampires].) And it kind of stuck.
