My irritation with this whole thing is almost entirely from the way it was handled.

Dana is me. I've been tracking it pretty carefully on my LJ, and with some caution in how I phrased things, because I really didn't want to get into the relative morality of incest-fic and chan and actual pedophilia. And I still had a narrowly-averted flamewar in my comments.

I think Katie's right: can we have a nice simple shipping war now? I'm tired of the meta. Tired of fandom; it's too much work.

At this point, I just kind of want to see people posting more freaking stories.

I am fresh out of meta. And there's not enough porn.

(Where porn = apparently, if you are me, entirely gen stories with a side of angst. Because of the aforementioned porn is broken problem. Which is, as Fay'd say, pants.)

At this point, I just kind of want to see people posting more freaking stories.

Seriously. What used to be three ginourmous piles of to be read fic (bedroom, living room, and work) is now down to one pretty small pile at work.

I checked, and the worst thing I had was "gay vampire snuff porn." Does anyone even remember where that joke originated?)

raises hand

It...it seemed to be a factually accurate but hilariously awful description of stories I was reading. And writing. (And indeed of the Angel-Lindsey-Darla story arc onscreen, amongst other Jossian delights. And of most of Anne Rice's ouvre [pre her Saul-like conversion to writing RPF about the lord Jesus Christ, rather than homoerotic vampires].) And it kind of stuck.

Lee, did you see the rec I posted? Here, I'll repost for the Buffistas:

And Fear the Silence is the Word of God, by Flora Hart. Season 1, set after "Faith". Dean Winchester, and what he believes. Just gorgeous: lovely prose, great insight.

And, what the hell: if there's any of my stuff you missed, it'll be here: [link] (With the possible exception of the Heart post-ep, which I haven't coded and uploaded yet.)

I did! I haven't read it yet, but it is in my to be printed file.

It's very good, but part of me wishes that she'd been able to align it to current canon, or had just left out that disclaimer at the top, because it kept pulling me out of the story.

I guess I'll have to re-read (what a hardship) now that I know where things don't quite align.

Dana -- I just meant that if all the fandom journals were being reinstated, and it seems now that they have been, there's very good odds that in fact a fandom journal would be reinstated. If there's anything to splutter about in that "half," it's the idea that there might be that many journals actively promoting real pedophilia and incest etc.

Consuela, could you remind me of the name of that author we were talking about at drinks the other night? I seem to recall Rosemary something-or-other, but I'm iffy on the last name and I would really like to find those books. Thanks!

Sail, would it be Edgehill? (spelling possibly different)