On Angel it had the full, intentional support of all concerned from the top down. So to speak.
I'm not sure it had DB's full support, though I do think he played along well enough. I've read severel pieces in which he says "ANGEL IS NOT GAY."
Wash: Don't fall asleep now. Sleepiness is weakness of character. Ask anyone. You're acting captain. Know what happens you fall asleep now? Zoe: Jayne slits my throat, and takes over. Wash: That's right. Zoe: And we can't stop it.
'Shindig'
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Lee - Jun 03, 2005 6:14:45 am PDT #238 of 10431
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
§ ita § - Jun 03, 2005 6:16:54 am PDT #239 of 10431
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I've read severel pieces in which he says "ANGEL IS NOT GAY."
Was this before the last season? I mean, the subtext was almost domtext for much of the run, but Angel was intimate with Spike...
Oh. Right. Bisexual. Of course. Not gay -- bisexual.
Lee - Jun 03, 2005 6:26:29 am PDT #240 of 10431
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
But they had Spike/JM say it, not DB/Angel. At about the same time DB/Angel was pretending that Angel saying " I want you Lindsey" needed to be rephrased.
§ ita § - Jun 03, 2005 6:30:35 am PDT #241 of 10431
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Support it or not, it kinda makes it explicit (okay, not enough for many purposes). DB can not want to say it as much as he wants. It doesn't make his character het.
Lee - Jun 03, 2005 6:38:05 am PDT #242 of 10431
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Oh, I'm not saying the character was. Matt's original statement was that
On Angel it had the full, intentional support of all concerned from the top down.
I agree with everyone except maybe DB. Although he played along, he never seemed fully comfortable or supportive of it.
§ ita § - Jun 03, 2005 6:40:10 am PDT #243 of 10431
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Although he played along, he never seemed fully comfortable or supportive of it.
I was just commenting on the Angel is not gay denial -- comfortable or supportive or no -- Angel was intimate with Spike and it would have been weird for the actor to be denying it after those lines were delivered.
Lee - Jun 03, 2005 6:41:54 am PDT #244 of 10431
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Oh. I think some of them were later, but I could be wrong.
Connie Neil - Jun 03, 2005 7:06:14 am PDT #245 of 10431
brillig
Angel may just object to the wording. Perhaps he prefers to be fey or something more from the Romantic era.
§ ita § - Jun 03, 2005 7:06:55 am PDT #246 of 10431
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Angel, or DB?
Connie Neil - Jun 03, 2005 7:08:08 am PDT #247 of 10431
brillig
Either. Both.
Though I've always admired DB's clothing optional tendencies, for what that's worth, relevance aside.