That's the thing -- that kind of learned helpless leads to self-contempt, because I perceive myself as growing less competent over time.

Uh huh.

That's the thing -- that kind of learned helpless leads to self-contempt, because I perceive myself as growing less competent over time.

This makes sense. I do percieve that I am a worse and worse writer. Or at least trying less hard.

However, I have experienced ita's "But YOU do it so well..." form of learned helplessness. I make copies WELL. Really? I bet just about anyone can make copies just as well as I can if they tried for about 30 seconds.

This apartment sounds adorable and worth checking out, but the picture is so creepy I cant help but think there must have been a masacre there, and it's built on ancient tribal burial ground, and that little girl from the well will come bursting through the pipes.

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I love that apartment. I think you should hire Jilli to decorate it. Also, you should hang a bat out the window to take advantage of the slant.

With the LA housing market, as long as Samara could chip in on the rent that might not be a deal-breaker.

Is it used outside of depression? The people I know who do it seem very happy.

People here have given lots of other examples, but uses outside depression are more riffs on the name than they are a reflection of the original theory. The original theory was purely about learned apathy in the face of negative events. It wasn't about being manipulative or seductive or anything. Those behaviors are learned because they get you something positive (someone else does your work), not because the person doing them really feels helpless.

But there is no reason why the meaning of 'learned helplessness' couldn't change over time, especially since most researchers have abandoned it as a theory.

Allyson, that picture is funny as all get out.

you should at least go look at the apartment.

I'm thinking this is better than the obvious alternative. And it's a pretty top -- I'm very unclear on how a lot of tops I see in the stores are really meant to be worn.

Also, educators use learned helplessness to describe behaviors in LD students. The original studies weren't actually about depression per se at all. But they were a response to behaviorlism (which I loves me some BF Skinner) or to understand when and where and how behaviorlism breaks down.

It was then applied to depression, but the original term was not necessarily related just to depression.

You. Over there. That's not a work conversation. I don't care if I don't understand the language. You don't talk to co-workers in that wailing cooing sort of voice. And the convo is easily over half an hour long. But you do burp less when talking to your husband.

And you. On the other side. Please stop grunting. Sighing I can handle, but the grunting is driving me batshit.

Thanks!