Angel: Eve. So, I guess we should, I don't know, talk? Eve: About what? Angel: About what happened back there with us. Eve: Angel, it's not like this is the first time I've had sex under a mystical influence. I went to U.C. Santa Cruz.

'Life of the Party'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jun 02, 2005 1:33:34 pm PDT #8834 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You. Over there. That's not a work conversation. I don't care if I don't understand the language. You don't talk to co-workers in that wailing cooing sort of voice. And the convo is easily over half an hour long. But you do burp less when talking to your husband.

And you. On the other side. Please stop grunting. Sighing I can handle, but the grunting is driving me batshit.

Thanks!


Allyson - Jun 02, 2005 1:36:40 pm PDT #8835 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Is he taking a hard crap in his cube? Whyfore the grunt?


§ ita § - Jun 02, 2005 1:38:28 pm PDT #8836 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is he taking a hard crap in his cube? Whyfore the grunt?

Okay, ew. Thanks for visual. Also olfactoral.

I guess I should just be grateful that if he is crapping, his shit don't stink.


Jesse - Jun 02, 2005 1:39:32 pm PDT #8837 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I used to work with an old guy who made many many noises as he went about his work. I was glad not to be the person in the next cube.


§ ita § - Jun 02, 2005 1:41:34 pm PDT #8838 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

On the up side, I have Kid Creole And The Coconuts on the iPod.


Rick - Jun 02, 2005 1:54:24 pm PDT #8839 of 10001

Also, educators use learned helplessness to describe behaviors in LD students. The original studies weren't actually about depression per se at all.

Well, the original studies were done with dogs. The first application to humans was with regard to depression. But the example of LD kids is an exact fit to the original idea of learned helplessness, unlike the example of manipulative physicists or attractive women in offices or bosses or, God forbid that Allyson ever has to put up with this, attractive female physicist bosses. The LD kids are failing to make an effort even though making an effort might help them. That is learned helplessness. The bad boss/babe/scientist is making an effort to appear helpless because it does help them to manipulate other people.

Skinner hated the term 'helplessness' because it described a state of the organism rather than a state of the environment, but as Kat points out he studied very similar things. He just gave them different names. He (his students, actually) thought that depression was caused by inescapable punishment or the failure to earn rewards, but that there was no reason to assign an 'organism name' like helplessness to what was really a description of environmental events.


Jesse - Jun 02, 2005 1:54:34 pm PDT #8840 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I have just remembered a good easy cooking thing -- marinating chicken in store-bought italian salad dressing. Threw chicken strips in there for a couple of hours, broiled them for 20 minutes, and yum.


Sheryl - Jun 02, 2005 1:55:55 pm PDT #8841 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

The seat of my pants ripped at work today.(OK, it was just below my seat, but still). I guess that area of fabric was more worn than I realized, because it torn when I went to pick up some tubes from the floor. Luckily a)I was sitting down most of the day and b) the tear was not in an area my co-workers would be looking at, I hope.


ChiKat - Jun 02, 2005 1:56:12 pm PDT #8842 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Italian salad dressing is a great, all-purpose marinade. I will marinate just about anything in it.


Jesse - Jun 02, 2005 2:04:02 pm PDT #8843 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Pathetically, I really only cook with chicken breasts and ground beef.

Oh, and sausage.