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Betsy HP - May 10, 2005 10:26:53 am PDT #2835 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I'm saying there is no sentence that starts "Guys like" that I'm going to find plausible.

It's just.... too big a sample set. You can't draw a smooth curve.


bon bon - May 10, 2005 10:27:37 am PDT #2836 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

If the world generalized to my boyfriend, there would be guys whose preferences seem completely unimpinged [that isn't even a word, is it] by social expectations. An example: "your eyeliner looks nice!"
"I'm not wearing eyeliner. Do you mean eye shadow?"
"Maybe?"
"Are you just saying that because you can tell I'm wearing eye shadow?"
"Well, I see sparkles."


Trudy Booth - May 10, 2005 10:27:55 am PDT #2837 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The only person who's ever told me I should wear makeup is my grandmother.


Nora Deirdre - May 10, 2005 10:28:09 am PDT #2838 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

"Well, I see sparkles."

OMG SO CUTE.


Betsy HP - May 10, 2005 10:28:25 am PDT #2839 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I think I have more of a grasp on it. What people like in their sexual partners is as quirky and as idiosyncratic as they come. You can find somebody who likes or dislikes anything. It isn't that difficult.


Daisy Jane - May 10, 2005 10:28:26 am PDT #2840 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

A friend's 8 yr old daughter was getting pressure to shave her legs, getting made fun of for being a baby & so on. A couple of us called her to tell her that we avioded shaving our legs when we didn't have to and that not shaving was the much more adult way to go.


§ ita § - May 10, 2005 10:28:32 am PDT #2841 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm saying there is no sentence that starts "Guys like" that I'm going to find plausible.

I'm a little disappointed that my insistence of an implied "Most" isn't getting through, but there you go. Do you want me to edit the original post? Will it help? Or should I just let it slide?


Fred Pete - May 10, 2005 10:29:24 am PDT #2842 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

A friend's 8 yr old daughter was getting pressure to shave her legs

head explodes


Jessica - May 10, 2005 10:30:30 am PDT #2843 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But it seems to me that very many guys assume that most women will tweeze, pluck and shave, and that's what women do, and that's how women will look.

I think, in general, guys don't think this much about grooming. I think the generic mental image of the American Woman probably is clean-shaven, wears makeup, dresses nicely, showers, etc, but I'm not sure most men put a lot of thought into the specifics of how that look gets created.

[eta that "Well, I see sparkles." is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.]


juliana - May 10, 2005 10:30:46 am PDT #2844 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Being pretty makes things complicated. Being near pretty things is just pleasant.

Per-zactly.

I groom and work out for me. There's a certain way I like to look and feel, and that demands the plucking, the shaving, the dyeing, all of it. I really don't think Zach would care if I stopped, as long as *I* was okay with it. Well, he might miss the funky hair color.