You know, it's funny. We went to war never looking to come back, but it's the real world I couldn't survive.

Tracy ,'The Message'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Daisy Jane - May 10, 2005 10:01:50 am PDT #2794 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

ita, I think that's a wholly subjective thing that depends on both the woman and the guy in question.


Betsy HP - May 10, 2005 10:02:28 am PDT #2795 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I have known guys who thought I looked better in makeup.

I've always wondered something along the same lines: Do guys care if women are wearing matching underwear? I always thought that was a girl thing, that guys were indifferent in general. (That is, he might like your black bra, but he doesn't care whether you wear it with the matching black pants or red pants or whatever.)


Steph L. - May 10, 2005 10:02:47 am PDT #2796 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Okay, sparked by something I saw elsewhere: Do guys care if women are keeping in shape for aesthetics, wearing makeup, nice clothes, tweezing brows, shaving legs, dressing hair?

If I thought that guys didn't care, I'd be even more unkempt than I am now. For real. *I* don't give a shit about my eyebrows.


Betsy HP - May 10, 2005 10:03:40 am PDT #2797 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Huh. I tweeze my eyebrows because otherwise they drive me nuts. Basically, I dress and groom for me.


sarameg - May 10, 2005 10:04:04 am PDT #2798 of 10001

That poor, poor squirrel.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 10, 2005 10:04:13 am PDT #2799 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Okay, sparked by something I saw elsewhere: Do guys care if women are keeping in shape for aesthetics, wearing makeup, nice clothes, tweezing brows, shaving legs, dressing hair?

Or do women do it to and for themselves?

Hardly an auhority here, but I do think that there's a mix of both at work. Really, a combo of wanting to be attractive to men, competitive with other women, looking good for one's own sake, and taking advantage of the societal perks given to people who make an effort to look good.


Steph L. - May 10, 2005 10:04:23 am PDT #2800 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Do guys care if women are wearing matching underwear? I always thought that was a girl thing, that guys were indifferent in general.

Huh. I always thought women wore matching underwear ONLY for men, and that on an average day where nobody would see them undressing, it was whatever undies were clean and at the top of the pile of laundry you never seem to put away.

I have these things all backward, it seems.


Connie Neil - May 10, 2005 10:04:25 am PDT #2801 of 10001
brillig

I've never known a guy worth keeping who cared. I found that the ones who said, "You should wear lipstick" or whatever were interested in dictating other parts of my life as well.


Betsy HP - May 10, 2005 10:05:57 am PDT #2802 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

The real question is, are guy squirrels turned on by girl squirrels in human drag?


Steph L. - May 10, 2005 10:06:00 am PDT #2803 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Basically, I dress and groom for me.

God, really? If I were dressing and grooming for only me, I wouldn't wear makeup ever, and all my clothes would be selected for comfort, not fashion.