I'm sorry. You were going to ask me to choose, right? Did you want to finish?

Zoe ,'War Stories'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Betsy HP - May 10, 2005 10:05:57 am PDT #2802 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

The real question is, are guy squirrels turned on by girl squirrels in human drag?


Steph L. - May 10, 2005 10:06:00 am PDT #2803 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Basically, I dress and groom for me.

God, really? If I were dressing and grooming for only me, I wouldn't wear makeup ever, and all my clothes would be selected for comfort, not fashion.


Jessica - May 10, 2005 10:06:14 am PDT #2804 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

DH thinks I'm at my most adorable when I think I look like crap -- hair at least 2 weeks past it's dye-date, no makeup, bags under my eyes, etc etc. I clean up only for myself.


Steph L. - May 10, 2005 10:06:33 am PDT #2805 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

The real question is, are guy squirrels turned on by girl squirrels in human drag?

Oh, come ON!

How could they NOT be?


Betsy HP - May 10, 2005 10:06:37 am PDT #2806 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I wouldn't wear makeup ever, and all my clothes would be selected for comfort, not fashion.

t waves

Although my idea of "comfort" involves long swirly skirts.


Steph L. - May 10, 2005 10:07:31 am PDT #2807 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

DH thinks I'm at my most adorable when I think I look like crap -- hair at least 2 weeks past it's dye-date, no makeup, bags under my eyes, etc etc.

I gotta get me one of those.


Daisy Jane - May 10, 2005 10:07:41 am PDT #2808 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Huh. I always thought women wore matching underwear ONLY for men, and that on an average day where nobody would see them undressing, it was whatever undies were clean and at the top of the pile of laundry you never seem to put away.

Somedays I'm all about the first clean undies I can find. Other days I like my matching froofy stuff. I'm married, so it'll likely be seen eventually, but I think the fancy underwear are mostly for me. I have the lacy/satin/frilly underthings and 2 fancy robes that I wander around the house in on "spa days"


§ ita § - May 10, 2005 10:07:46 am PDT #2809 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that's a wholly subjective thing

By definition.

that depends on both the woman and the guy in question

I'm wondering in terms of generalities.

Me, I dress just as much as *I* like, unless I need to have a specific effect (look professional, scary ... sexy is just one of those options, and not used as often as the other two suggestions).

However, I'm not unkempt. I do have a tendency to wear clothes that many might opine don't fit (both baggy and tight) from time to time. Mostly, though, I'm aiming to dress more for me, and less with a sensitivity to how complete strangers are going to react.

I do wonder if some of the guys who say "Legs? Hair? Makeup? Who cares?" have spent time looking at women with unshaved legs and pits.

*I* don't care. I figured guys did, though. Enough of them, and not just the "Why don't you look like CZJ?" kind. Just that one takes for granted that women look a bit more like the cleaned up version than we naturally do.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 10, 2005 10:09:18 am PDT #2810 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hmm. Dunno if it's a guy vs. girl thing or just the fact that I'm a slob, but if I'm home and don't expect anyone to see me, pictures of the results could be used for blackmail purposes.

I think I have bought into the societal ideas about proper appearance quite a bit though. I find lack of shaving to be aesthetically unappealing on women despite having no personal stake in their attractiveness, and despite finding the exact opposite to be true of men.


Sparky1 - May 10, 2005 10:09:28 am PDT #2811 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

I think most of what I do I do for myself. My DH claims to not like makeup, nail polish or perfume, etc. I wear all those things on occassion, so I must be doing it because I want to.

To pick up on Connie's idea, I would rebel if he suddenly started telling me I should wear lipstick, but I appreciate it when he reminds me I might need some sunscreen.