I worry about the objectification of women
notes "only gay porn" in Cashmere's file
I think porn is, like most things, value-neutral on its own, and either good or bad depending on how it's used/produced/presented.
Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.
Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'
Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
Jessica - Apr 26, 2005 10:08:47 am PDT #5792 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
beth b - Apr 26, 2005 10:08:54 am PDT #5793 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
I think I came up with my definition of porn because printed porn - does nothing for me. video - I need context - not just people doing various sex acts.
Deena - Apr 26, 2005 10:11:14 am PDT #5794 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara
Deena, job-done-ma to you to the nth degree. Once done, you can play, right?
I wish. In about 8 minutes I have to call and discuss the work I just (badly) finished, and then run through an online presentation, and then attend the online presentation so I can run the slides since he's afraid of technology, and then I have more work to do after that, though I may shovel out my living room instead of doing any more paid work today. It's a conundrum. I need to get the paying stuff done, but the mess surrounding me is driving me insane.
Susan W. - Apr 26, 2005 10:12:57 am PDT #5795 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
Romance novels are good for my marriage. I switch gears very slowly - so if I am doing the dishes - sex is a forgien concept. a good romance novel puts my brain in the right place.
I'm the same way. So both reading and writing this stuff is good for my marriage.
I worry about the objectification of women. And I worry that supporting "legitimate" forms of pornography somehow contributes to the existence of "lower" forms of porn.
Yes, this.
I think most romance novels are concerned with the romance part--with bits of sex thrown in for fun. So I don't consider them in any way, pornographic.
Me neither. Though in the wip, the sex is too important for character development to take out without gutting the story, so I wouldn't quite say it's thrown in for fun, either.
erikaj - Apr 26, 2005 10:14:49 am PDT #5796 of 10001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-
Erotica is porn you like...porn is porn you don't like...I think Gloria Steinem said that.
Fred Pete - Apr 26, 2005 10:16:21 am PDT #5797 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
...and obscenity is porn you don't think anyone should like.
erikaj - Apr 26, 2005 10:18:48 am PDT #5798 of 10001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-
Of course, how could I forget! Thanks, Fred.
beth b - Apr 26, 2005 10:19:34 am PDT #5799 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
the sex is too important for character development to take out without gutting the story, so I wouldn't quite say it's thrown in for fun, either.
yup, I like it all to fit together.
erikaj - Apr 26, 2005 10:19:51 am PDT #5800 of 10001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-
beth b - Apr 26, 2005 10:20:19 am PDT #5801 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
and fred pete and erika find the quote that makes sense to me. one point each.