I worry about the objectification of women
notes "only gay porn" in Cashmere's file
I think porn is, like most things, value-neutral on its own, and either good or bad depending on how it's used/produced/presented.
I'll just jump in my time machine, go back to the twelfth century, and ask the vampires to postpone their ancient prophesy for a few days while you take in dinner and a show.
Giles ,'Selfless'
Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
Jessica - Apr 26, 2005 10:08:47 am PDT #5792 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
beth b - Apr 26, 2005 10:08:54 am PDT #5793 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
I think I came up with my definition of porn because printed porn - does nothing for me. video - I need context - not just people doing various sex acts.
Deena - Apr 26, 2005 10:11:14 am PDT #5794 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara
Deena, job-done-ma to you to the nth degree. Once done, you can play, right?
I wish. In about 8 minutes I have to call and discuss the work I just (badly) finished, and then run through an online presentation, and then attend the online presentation so I can run the slides since he's afraid of technology, and then I have more work to do after that, though I may shovel out my living room instead of doing any more paid work today. It's a conundrum. I need to get the paying stuff done, but the mess surrounding me is driving me insane.
Susan W. - Apr 26, 2005 10:12:57 am PDT #5795 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
Romance novels are good for my marriage. I switch gears very slowly - so if I am doing the dishes - sex is a forgien concept. a good romance novel puts my brain in the right place.
I'm the same way. So both reading and writing this stuff is good for my marriage.
I worry about the objectification of women. And I worry that supporting "legitimate" forms of pornography somehow contributes to the existence of "lower" forms of porn.
Yes, this.
I think most romance novels are concerned with the romance part--with bits of sex thrown in for fun. So I don't consider them in any way, pornographic.
Me neither. Though in the wip, the sex is too important for character development to take out without gutting the story, so I wouldn't quite say it's thrown in for fun, either.
erikaj - Apr 26, 2005 10:14:49 am PDT #5796 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Erotica is porn you like...porn is porn you don't like...I think Gloria Steinem said that.
Fred Pete - Apr 26, 2005 10:16:21 am PDT #5797 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
...and obscenity is porn you don't think anyone should like.
erikaj - Apr 26, 2005 10:18:48 am PDT #5798 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Of course, how could I forget! Thanks, Fred.
beth b - Apr 26, 2005 10:19:34 am PDT #5799 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
the sex is too important for character development to take out without gutting the story, so I wouldn't quite say it's thrown in for fun, either.
yup, I like it all to fit together.
erikaj - Apr 26, 2005 10:19:51 am PDT #5800 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
beth b - Apr 26, 2005 10:20:19 am PDT #5801 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
and fred pete and erika find the quote that makes sense to me. one point each.