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Gudanov - Apr 13, 2005 11:52:59 am PDT #3178 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

So 10 of his sons knew not of womanly affection?

Well, 1 got knocked off.


Jessica - Apr 13, 2005 11:53:05 am PDT #3179 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

There's a fairly famous pagan essay entitled "We Are The Other People" that addresses the whole incest/Eden thing. (In the context of How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Leave You Alone.)


Betsy HP - Apr 13, 2005 11:53:40 am PDT #3180 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

At some point, the sons of Earth married the daughters of Men.


Betsy HP - Apr 13, 2005 11:53:43 am PDT #3181 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

GAH. Why am I big with the double-post?


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2005 11:53:45 am PDT #3182 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So 10 of his sons knew not of womanly affection?

Line marriages.

IJS.


-t - Apr 13, 2005 11:54:36 am PDT #3183 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

At some point, the sons of Earth married the daughters of Men.

I think that might be where the giants came in.


tommyrot - Apr 13, 2005 11:54:55 am PDT #3184 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Maybe the 10 9 men went off and formed a gay commune.


Gudanov - Apr 13, 2005 11:55:00 am PDT #3185 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I was taught that Adam & Eve were the first, but not necessarily the only, humans. So, their kids could have married the others.

There is a version I've heard that Adam & Eve were the first "true" humans in the sense that they had a soul, but other non-human humans where around.


Trudy Booth - Apr 13, 2005 11:55:16 am PDT #3186 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I had serious issues with Lot that were never answered either. I would argue that Lot tried to pimp out his daughters, but be told that "no, Lot knew that they only wanted the angels so his daughters were safe." Which is still icky because he's offering them up. Then he and his daugthers live, go hide in a cave, where he's daughters get him drunk and jump him so they can have kids.

And this guy was spared?

The "the Bible isn't anti-gay" crowd will tell you that the sin of Sodom was their lack of hospitality... that the code of life in the desert was such that hospitality was essential for survival of the culture and once you offered someone shelter in your home their protection was even more important than the financial hit you would take if you couldn't marry off your daughters because they weren't virgins anymore (having been raped by an ugly mob and all).

And there is an "echo" of Abraham's willingness to sacrifice Isaac. It's fun to look for those allusions and view the stories accordingly (particularly on the theory that that is what the original hearers would have been doing).


tommyrot - Apr 13, 2005 11:55:44 am PDT #3187 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think that might be where the giants came in.

I never heard about the giants, and we were raised with a literal interpretation of the Bible.