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Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

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askye - Apr 13, 2005 11:33:43 am PDT #3154 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I'm actually confused about the Lillith thing, because when I was growing up I'd never heard of her.

There was God, then Adam, then Eve, then Cain killed Able and was sent away and married other people. Which always led me to -- what other people?? Because the Southern Baptists taught me that God made and Adam and Eve and everyone comes from them but Cain finds people to get it on with? Also if everyone comes from Adam and Eve, doesn't that mean there was a lot of icky incest stuff going on?

These were my questions that never got answered. They seemed to make my Sunday School teachers uncomfortable.

I also knew a lady from a different online community who started a religous bulletien board, but banned certain names from being used that were "of God", Lillith was one of those names.


tommyrot - Apr 13, 2005 11:39:10 am PDT #3155 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

There was God, then Adam, then Eve, then Cain killed Able and was sent away and married other people. Which always led me to -- what other people?? Because the Southern Baptists taught me that God made and Adam and Eve and everyone comes from them but Cain finds people to get it on with?

People lived extra-long back then, so people could populate the earth faster. So Cain could have been in his hundreds and there'd be lots of people by then. That's what I was told, anyway.


Pix - Apr 13, 2005 11:40:52 am PDT #3156 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

Hey Universe, what's the best month of the year?

I am so not obligated to answer that.

Totally. March. Sockpuppet.


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2005 11:40:54 am PDT #3157 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So Cain could have been in his hundreds and there'd be lots of people by then.

Born of whom, is the question ...


-t - Apr 13, 2005 11:41:43 am PDT #3158 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Lilith isn't in the bible. She's sort of implied in the first "Male and female he created them" or something like that, and she's big in Jewish folklore, in which she left the Garden of Eden of her own volition and became a child-stealing infant-killing demon, more or less.


askye - Apr 13, 2005 11:41:48 am PDT #3159 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

But there's still the icky incest that no one I asked wanted to account for.


Gudanov - Apr 13, 2005 11:42:37 am PDT #3160 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Well, Cain would have had to marry one of his sisters, there are lots of unmentioned daughters of Adam and Eve. 23 or something.


tommyrot - Apr 13, 2005 11:42:39 am PDT #3161 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Born of whom, is the question ...

Adam and Eve, or of their children. Maybe their grandchildren.

There's no getting around the incest thing.


-t - Apr 13, 2005 11:42:57 am PDT #3162 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I had who Cain married explained to me, but I don't remember. I think it had something to do with, um, giants. But I might be mixing my mythologies.


Gudanov - Apr 13, 2005 11:43:55 am PDT #3163 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

But there's still the icky incest that no one I asked wanted to account for.

There was incest, but Adam and Eve were perfect humans so there wasn't any worry about birth defects and such from inbreeding.