Simon: I, uh... I never-never shot anyone before. Book: I was there, son. I'm fair sure you haven't shot anyone yet.

'War Stories'


Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Pix - Apr 13, 2005 11:40:52 am PDT #3156 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

Hey Universe, what's the best month of the year?

I am so not obligated to answer that.

Totally. March. Sockpuppet.


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2005 11:40:54 am PDT #3157 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So Cain could have been in his hundreds and there'd be lots of people by then.

Born of whom, is the question ...


-t - Apr 13, 2005 11:41:43 am PDT #3158 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Lilith isn't in the bible. She's sort of implied in the first "Male and female he created them" or something like that, and she's big in Jewish folklore, in which she left the Garden of Eden of her own volition and became a child-stealing infant-killing demon, more or less.


askye - Apr 13, 2005 11:41:48 am PDT #3159 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

But there's still the icky incest that no one I asked wanted to account for.


Gudanov - Apr 13, 2005 11:42:37 am PDT #3160 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Well, Cain would have had to marry one of his sisters, there are lots of unmentioned daughters of Adam and Eve. 23 or something.


tommyrot - Apr 13, 2005 11:42:39 am PDT #3161 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Born of whom, is the question ...

Adam and Eve, or of their children. Maybe their grandchildren.

There's no getting around the incest thing.


-t - Apr 13, 2005 11:42:57 am PDT #3162 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I had who Cain married explained to me, but I don't remember. I think it had something to do with, um, giants. But I might be mixing my mythologies.


Gudanov - Apr 13, 2005 11:43:55 am PDT #3163 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

But there's still the icky incest that no one I asked wanted to account for.

There was incest, but Adam and Eve were perfect humans so there wasn't any worry about birth defects and such from inbreeding.


tommyrot - Apr 13, 2005 11:43:59 am PDT #3164 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Well, Cain would have had to marry one of his sisters, there are lots of unmentioned daughters of Adam and Eve. 23 or something.

Were there other brothers? If not, Cain and Able would have been pretty busy....


Gudanov - Apr 13, 2005 11:45:17 am PDT #3165 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I'm pretty sure there were other brothers. I think there is some line about how Adam had many sons and daughters by the time he lived his 800 years or so.