You always think harder is better. Maybe next time I patrol, I should carry bricks and use a stake made out of butter.

Buffy ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Apr 27, 2005 6:27:58 pm PDT #9550 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I do actually believe that building "self esteem" isn't as important as building self worth that's actually based on achievement. But that book sounds like BS.


Hil R. - Apr 27, 2005 6:28:36 pm PDT #9551 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'm watching, Emily. I'm halfway irked -- I think she has a good point, but takes it too far -- some of the stuff she's arguing against seems totally silly and probably harmful, but some of the other stuff seems useful.


Jesse - Apr 27, 2005 6:29:10 pm PDT #9552 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Note: Christina Hoff Summers is on the Daily Show talking about this book: [link]


JenP - Apr 27, 2005 6:29:44 pm PDT #9553 of 10001

sj, yes. Absolutely don't. Something is up there.


Emily - Apr 27, 2005 6:30:22 pm PDT #9554 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Yeah, exactly. I do think it gets taken too far sometimes, but you know what? It's about 23rd on the list of What's Wrong with America's Schools. Is the thing. And she seems like a nice lady, but it just sounded so much like "These kids today got it so damned easy -- we should be whipping their asses! Laura Ingalls Wilder wouldn'a stood for any of this guff!"


Hil R. - Apr 27, 2005 6:30:33 pm PDT #9555 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

And I usually won't grade with red ink. I agree, the color just looks too harsh. I had a teacher in high school who wouldn't use it because she said it looked like someone bled all over the paper, and I liked it.


Jesse - Apr 27, 2005 6:32:10 pm PDT #9556 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

She's annoying. See also, Who Stole Feminism? and The War Against Boys.


Hil R. - Apr 27, 2005 6:34:25 pm PDT #9557 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Although, today, I overheard a student complaining because "This class is ridiculous. I'm a good student, and I've been working really hard, and even if I get an A on the final, I'm not going to get any higher than a B in this class, and that really isn't fair. I'm a good student, and I deserve a higher grade than that." This is far from the first time I've heard a student arguing that exact same thing, the "I worked hard, therefore I deserve an A, even though I haven't demonstrated a mastery of the material."


sj - Apr 27, 2005 6:35:06 pm PDT #9558 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

sj, yes. Absolutely don't. Something is up there.

I think he is poisoning Spy Daddy, and making him sicker.


Emily - Apr 27, 2005 6:35:42 pm PDT #9559 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Wasn't The War Against Boys the one which said that our emphasis on raising girls' self-esteem was having a harmful effect on boys?

I thought Stewart was responding well, but it did just seem like a strange guest to book. And "what we need is a return to common sense"? Sounded an awful lot like "the only thing a good teacher really needs is a piece of chalk and a chalkboard."