You like ships. You don't seem to be looking at the destinations. What you care about is the ships, and mine's the nicest.

Kaylee ,'Serenity'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Apr 27, 2005 6:30:33 pm PDT #9555 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

And I usually won't grade with red ink. I agree, the color just looks too harsh. I had a teacher in high school who wouldn't use it because she said it looked like someone bled all over the paper, and I liked it.


Jesse - Apr 27, 2005 6:32:10 pm PDT #9556 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

She's annoying. See also, Who Stole Feminism? and The War Against Boys.


Hil R. - Apr 27, 2005 6:34:25 pm PDT #9557 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Although, today, I overheard a student complaining because "This class is ridiculous. I'm a good student, and I've been working really hard, and even if I get an A on the final, I'm not going to get any higher than a B in this class, and that really isn't fair. I'm a good student, and I deserve a higher grade than that." This is far from the first time I've heard a student arguing that exact same thing, the "I worked hard, therefore I deserve an A, even though I haven't demonstrated a mastery of the material."


sj - Apr 27, 2005 6:35:06 pm PDT #9558 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

sj, yes. Absolutely don't. Something is up there.

I think he is poisoning Spy Daddy, and making him sicker.


Emily - Apr 27, 2005 6:35:42 pm PDT #9559 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Wasn't The War Against Boys the one which said that our emphasis on raising girls' self-esteem was having a harmful effect on boys?

I thought Stewart was responding well, but it did just seem like a strange guest to book. And "what we need is a return to common sense"? Sounded an awful lot like "the only thing a good teacher really needs is a piece of chalk and a chalkboard."


Jesse - Apr 27, 2005 6:36:50 pm PDT #9560 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

This is far from the first time I've heard a student arguing that exact same thing, the "I worked hard, therefore I deserve an A, even though I haven't demonstrated a mastery of the material."

Self-esteem run amok! Or however you spell that.

Seriously, I am a good student, but I far more often think I've gotten an A I didn't deserve.

Edit:

Wasn't The War Against Boys the one which said that our emphasis on raising girls' self-esteem was having a harmful effect on boys?

Yes.


Hil R. - Apr 27, 2005 6:40:13 pm PDT #9561 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The whole thing with getting rid of tag seems dumb, though, especially if they're replacing it with more structured games. Tag is a great game for kids -- not too many rules, but enough that they get some sense of having to follow them; enough leeway to get creative (freeze tag, TV tag, etc.); and enough space to play with the rules so that kids can get some sense of negotiation and compromise (like, figuring out things like "little kids are allowed to stay on base for 1 minute, older kids for 30 seconds; the kid who isn't allowed to watch TV can use movie names for TV tag," stuff like that.)


JenP - Apr 27, 2005 6:45:14 pm PDT #9562 of 10001

I think he is poisoning Spy Daddy, and making him sicker.

Yeah, he was pretty dismissive of Jack's having done research into treatments . And what's with pushing Jack to clear his conscience with Syd? I think he's got Jack bugged .


Emily - Apr 27, 2005 6:54:00 pm PDT #9563 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Hil, I agree with you. (Personally, I never liked tag, but I was one of those kids that just didn't like much of anything.) I even agree with her, at least with a lot of her anecdotes. It's just that... well, two things. The first is, I think things are rarely that simple, and I'd really like to hear from the people who actually do those things as to their reasoning. The second is that it seems... I guess it seems to be part and parcel of this idea that people running schools have no idea what they're doing. That teachers and administrators and parents are just doing things out of some touchy-feely hippy ideology without paying attention to the real task of school. I mean, she said at the end that what we really need to be doing is really engaging kids in the wonder of learning -- well, duh. What a stunning fucking revelation. I tell you what, lady, you come to the classroom full of kids who are about one more harsh word away from turning off entirely and coasting until they drop out, and you show me how to engage them -- otherwise, I'll keep trying whatever seems to work.

It doesn't help that I just got finished watching an hour of Lewis Black doing standup. It adds vehemence.


sj - Apr 27, 2005 6:54:37 pm PDT #9564 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Jen, I agree

I think the bug is in his leg under the other bandage.