The Inklings, and their co-horts, were the last vestiges of Victorian/Edwardian writers. They reveled in their non-modernity and rejected the new stuff (JRRT was notorious in his dislike of television, and even though he had a car while his kids were still living at home, he got rid of it during WWII or right after, and never bought another).
Willow ,'First Date'
Natter 34: Freak With No Name
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
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Oh, I just mean that Betsy's beer-drinking, pipe-smoking women are around in 1950, so if the Inklings are not hanging out with female authors as peers, they're doing it on purpose.
Edit: There, see? Like Kathy said.
I don't actually have any position to take in this discussion.
You know, if my mother had named me "Clive Staples," I might not have had the most enlightened attitudes towards women either.
Clive Owen doesn't seem to have a problem. I mean, we don't know that his middle name is Staples, but it could be, like, Hitler or Hassenpfeffer or Oogedy-Boogedy. Nonetheless, he neither smokes a pipenor rails against modernity.
His middle name is, obviously, "Robin's Lover".
If you get my share of C.S. Lewis, does this mean I get your share of Noel Coward?
I think Clive Owen should smoke a pipe. Mrowr.
(And for "smoke a pipe," insert...well, just about anything.)
I think he would look very silly smoking a pipe. Really, the age of the pipe has gone by, unless you're smoking dope in the pipe, in which case, you win irony points (double if you'er also wearing a grandfather sweater).
His middle name is, obviously, "Robin's Lover".
As opposed to Tolkien who, due to a tragic scooby-dooish speech impediment, was "Robin's Rover"?
Oh man, I should totally start smoking a pipe. They always smell so good.