I don't object to Susan's decay. What I object to is that most of the symptoms of her decay seem to be associated with girl cooties. She doesn't just deny Narnia -- she talks about boys and makeup! Ooh, ick!
It's all about the coat.
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Betsy HP - Apr 11, 2005 8:21:59 am PDT #4609 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Susan W. - Apr 11, 2005 8:22:08 am PDT #4610 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
It just seemed like her main sin was growing up is all.
See, I've always read it that her sin wasn't so much growing up as growing up in such a way that the worst characteristics of the child Susan we see in the early books were strengthened rather than controlled or outgrown. Which works for me, because I do see it as a natural outgrowth of who she was in the early books.
Betsy HP - Apr 11, 2005 8:22:27 am PDT #4611 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
. All of them lost their connection to Narnia in the long run, if I recall.
Nope. Everybody except Susan dies and goes to Narnia.
Gris - Apr 11, 2005 8:22:51 am PDT #4612 of 10001
Hey. New board.
Wow. Need to re-read, clearly.
Gris - Apr 11, 2005 8:24:09 am PDT #4613 of 10001
Hey. New board.
Well, anyway, Narnia was totally overrated anyway. I wouldn't want to live there.
I like makeup and boys. And girls. And computers.
msbelle - Apr 11, 2005 8:24:22 am PDT #4614 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
I have some new favorite lyrics:
I've got to talk to you today
can't keep listening to what you say
what you say
what you say
I know it make my insides crawl
to think you think you know it all
know it all
know it all
Chorus:
oh God, you're reading Albert Camus
and there's not much things you can't do
can't you see they're laughing at you.
Oh dear I'm getting weary
of the same show every night
it wouldn't be so hard
if you weren't soo right.
I've got to talk to you today
can't keep listening to what you say
what you say
what you say
I know you can't get over yourself
It's so hard to listen to someone else
someone else
someone else
chorus x2
feel like you're well meaning
it's not your fault I know
you're on medication
it's helping you to grow
I know
chorus from "Oh Dear" x2
The song is here [link] called Know it All.
Trudy Booth - Apr 11, 2005 8:25:08 am PDT #4615 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
"Narnia" is Natter Discussion 412, right? 480 maybe? Something in the fours...
-t - Apr 11, 2005 8:25:13 am PDT #4616 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I barely remmber what happened at the end of the Chronicles. Something about escalators.
That can't be right.
Susan W. - Apr 11, 2005 8:30:49 am PDT #4617 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
What I object to is that most of the symptoms of her decay seem to be associated with girl cooties. She doesn't just deny Narnia -- she talks about boys and makeup! Ooh, ick!
That, I'll admit, is a Lewis Thing, and if I could go back in time and be in his writers group (and how cool would THAT be?), I'd call him on it. But still, I read Susan's problem as more about vanity, pride, doubt, and fear than being a girly girl per se.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 11, 2005 8:31:34 am PDT #4618 of 10001
What is even happening?
See, I've always read it that her sin wasn't so much growing up as growing up in such a way that the worst characteristics of the child Susan we see in the early books were strengthened rather than controlled or outgrown. Which works for me, because I do see it as a natural outgrowth of who she was in the early books.
That's how I read it. Also, I've never felt her fate was finalized.