It just seemed like her main sin was growing up is all.

See, I've always read it that her sin wasn't so much growing up as growing up in such a way that the worst characteristics of the child Susan we see in the early books were strengthened rather than controlled or outgrown. Which works for me, because I do see it as a natural outgrowth of who she was in the early books.

. All of them lost their connection to Narnia in the long run, if I recall.

Nope. Everybody except Susan dies and goes to Narnia.

Wow. Need to re-read, clearly.

Well, anyway, Narnia was totally overrated anyway. I wouldn't want to live there.

I like makeup and boys. And girls. And computers.

I have some new favorite lyrics:

I've got to talk to you today
can't keep listening to what you say
what you say
what you say

I know it make my insides crawl
to think you think you know it all
know it all
know it all

Chorus: oh God, you're reading Albert Camus
and there's not much things you can't do
can't you see they're laughing at you.
Oh dear I'm getting weary
of the same show every night
it wouldn't be so hard
if you weren't soo right.

I've got to talk to you today
can't keep listening to what you say
what you say
what you say

I know you can't get over yourself
It's so hard to listen to someone else
someone else
someone else

chorus x2

feel like you're well meaning
it's not your fault I know
you're on medication
it's helping you to grow
I know

chorus from "Oh Dear" x2

The song is here [link] called Know it All.

"Narnia" is Natter Discussion 412, right? 480 maybe? Something in the fours...

I barely remmber what happened at the end of the Chronicles. Something about escalators.

That can't be right.

What I object to is that most of the symptoms of her decay seem to be associated with girl cooties. She doesn't just deny Narnia -- she talks about boys and makeup! Ooh, ick!

That, I'll admit, is a Lewis Thing, and if I could go back in time and be in his writers group (and how cool would THAT be?), I'd call him on it. But still, I read Susan's problem as more about vanity, pride, doubt, and fear than being a girly girl per se.

See, I've always read it that her sin wasn't so much growing up as growing up in such a way that the worst characteristics of the child Susan we see in the early books were strengthened rather than controlled or outgrown. Which works for me, because I do see it as a natural outgrowth of who she was in the early books.

That's how I read it. Also, I've never felt her fate was finalized.

I'm having this crazy good mozzarella/tomato/basil pizza from Pax Food. OMG it is so buttery good.