See, Vera? Dress yourself up; you get taken out somewhere fun.

Jayne ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Apr 06, 2005 10:14:54 am PDT #3793 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

From Hayden's link re: black holes:

Chapline argues that a star doesn't simply collapse to form a black hole; instead, the space-time inside it becomes filled with dark energy and this has some intriguing gravitational effects.

"Dark Energy"? Isn't that like something Darkseid would use? It sounds way more like a cheesy comic book than physics.

Though the universe is often cheesy, and that may turn out to be the universal constant.


amych - Apr 06, 2005 10:16:07 am PDT #3794 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Is it swiss cheese? That would explain the holes.

(Don't tell Perkins)


Scrappy - Apr 06, 2005 10:16:14 am PDT #3795 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

But if she's truly psychotic, she doesn't HAVE that integrity. Just as someone with thyroid problems isn't "normal" when their chemistry is all screwed up and their resulting lethargy needs to treated, a psychotic person's chemistry is all screwed up, and their resulting confusion needs to be treated.


Connie Neil - Apr 06, 2005 10:18:30 am PDT #3796 of 10001
brillig

ION, WTF!!!

WASHINGTON — In a move intended to counter terrorism, the U.S. will require by 2008 that Americans show passports or other specialized documents to reenter the country from Mexico and Canada, federal officials said Tuesday.

Under the restrictions, recommended by the Sept. 11 commission, Americans no longer would be allowed to show only a driver's license or a government-issued photo identification card, officials said. Similarly, Canadians, who have been able to enter the United States with a driver's license, would need a passport.

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Connie Neil - Apr 06, 2005 10:19:36 am PDT #3797 of 10001
brillig

But if she's truly psychotic, she doesn't HAVE that integrity

I'm not sure it's been proven she is, though.


Gudanov - Apr 06, 2005 10:19:55 am PDT #3798 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

"Dark Energy"?

It comes from observations that show that the Universe's expansion rate is increasing. Since gravity should be slowing down the gravity rate, there must be some other force involved. Since nobody knows what the heck it is, it gets a cheesy name. Cosmology is pretty screwed up right now because we are obviously missing some pieces in our understanding of things.


Nutty - Apr 06, 2005 10:20:16 am PDT #3799 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

If she committed the crime while insane, how could she have forfeited those rights?

Because you're responsible for your actions even if you're insane. If you're not competent to stand trial, then you forfeit A, B and C (notably, your ability to walk around in public). If you're competent, then there are other forfeits, like bail and an eventual trial.

Medicating people back to competence is in the interest of insane people. If you never medicated someone psychotic, just locked them up and evaluated every year or so, that person would rot in an asylum till the end of his days. The path of forced medication is the path back into society (even if that society is prison); and it's only forced in the cases of people who have come to a point where forcing is necessary (people in the legal system).


Sue - Apr 06, 2005 10:21:40 am PDT #3800 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I saw that on the news last night, Connie. It also said Canada may retailiate by requiring Americans to show passports. But FWIW, I wouldn't travel to the US without my passport now, anyway. Especially by air.


Jessica - Apr 06, 2005 10:21:44 am PDT #3801 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

In a move intended to counter terrorism, the U.S. will require by 2008 that Americans show passports or other specialized documents to reenter the country from Mexico and Canada, federal officials said Tuesday.

Buh? I thought this was already the case.


Scrappy - Apr 06, 2005 10:21:46 am PDT #3802 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Movies or TVs or (in the case of my schizophrenic cousin) heating vents talking to you and telling you what to do is usually a pretty clear indication of psychosis.