I'm not sure it's been proven she is, though.

Why?

Movies or TVs or (in the case of my schizophrenic cousin) heating vents talking to you and telling you what to do is usually a pretty clear indication of psychosis.

Pffft. Next you'll be telling us not to believe everything we read on the internet. Which is just craxxy.

If you can't believe your TV, who can you trust?

Because you're responsible for your actions even if you're insane

in legal terms, you're insane only if you did not know right from wrong at the time of the crime. If you say "I know it was wrong, but the big white bunny told me to", you're not legally insane.

Buh? I thought this was already the case.

The specialized documents they're talking about in this case are things like the frequent crosser things they already have in place--not the usual ID + Birth Certificate that you're supposed to have.

What it means for me, basically, is that I'll be shelling out a couple of hundred bucks (because the kidlet will need one, too) that I really can't afford just so that I can still make it across the border in case of funerals. There are sections of my state that are going to be royally fucked by this, one suspects, as they depend on border traffic.

If you say "I know it was wrong, but the big white bunny told me to", you're not legally insane.

Connie, this may or may not help. My SiL is a paranoid schizophrenic. She's been ill since her early 20's and she's now 50. In her own mind she doesn't need the drugs BUT without them the "voices" tell her to hurt not only herself but others and even if you could get through to her in this state (doubtful), she'd still think her actions were reasonable, when clearly they aren't. Medicated, she has about 50% reality and you can get through to her and she'll clearly understand all the ramifications of her actions and stop most harmful behavior before it goes badly.

in legal terms, you're insane only if you did not know right from wrong at the time of the crime. If you say "I know it was wrong, but the big white bunny told me to", you're not legally insane.

Right, at the trial. But if you're not competent to stand trial, then any insanity defense standard is moot. If you're not competent to stand trial, they don't just let you go; they keep you locked up until such time as you are competent. Which, with medication, is sooner rather than later.

Basically, you can be as crazy as you want, as long as it doesn't break the law. As soon as it does, then your crazy becomes a public concern, and the public has a right to demand you be medicated until that concern is completed. (Laughable, in some ways, because the legal system puts truly crazy, even legally insane, people back on the streets all the time, but that's not by design.)

Great. Now I'm earwormed with "I'm a danger to myself and others..." and I don't know any more of the song.

Must get a passport.

TAR: This is true of them:

Brian: We didn't focus on Rob and Amber. They were just another team. They didn't talk to us. We didn't talk to them. We didn't sweat Rob and Amber. We didn't think anything of them.

I just wish others would follow their example. Well, in the not sweating them -- you know -- they should just be running their race. Does look like the boys really did screw up -- 1.5 hours behind !!!