Kaylee: You're nice, too. Mal: No, I'm not. I'm a mean old man.

'Serenity'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Apr 06, 2005 10:19:55 am PDT #3798 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

"Dark Energy"?

It comes from observations that show that the Universe's expansion rate is increasing. Since gravity should be slowing down the gravity rate, there must be some other force involved. Since nobody knows what the heck it is, it gets a cheesy name. Cosmology is pretty screwed up right now because we are obviously missing some pieces in our understanding of things.


Nutty - Apr 06, 2005 10:20:16 am PDT #3799 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

If she committed the crime while insane, how could she have forfeited those rights?

Because you're responsible for your actions even if you're insane. If you're not competent to stand trial, then you forfeit A, B and C (notably, your ability to walk around in public). If you're competent, then there are other forfeits, like bail and an eventual trial.

Medicating people back to competence is in the interest of insane people. If you never medicated someone psychotic, just locked them up and evaluated every year or so, that person would rot in an asylum till the end of his days. The path of forced medication is the path back into society (even if that society is prison); and it's only forced in the cases of people who have come to a point where forcing is necessary (people in the legal system).


Sue - Apr 06, 2005 10:21:40 am PDT #3800 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I saw that on the news last night, Connie. It also said Canada may retailiate by requiring Americans to show passports. But FWIW, I wouldn't travel to the US without my passport now, anyway. Especially by air.


Jessica - Apr 06, 2005 10:21:44 am PDT #3801 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

In a move intended to counter terrorism, the U.S. will require by 2008 that Americans show passports or other specialized documents to reenter the country from Mexico and Canada, federal officials said Tuesday.

Buh? I thought this was already the case.


Scrappy - Apr 06, 2005 10:21:46 am PDT #3802 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Movies or TVs or (in the case of my schizophrenic cousin) heating vents talking to you and telling you what to do is usually a pretty clear indication of psychosis.


bon bon - Apr 06, 2005 10:22:07 am PDT #3803 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm not sure it's been proven she is, though.

Why?


Jessica - Apr 06, 2005 10:23:16 am PDT #3804 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Movies or TVs or (in the case of my schizophrenic cousin) heating vents talking to you and telling you what to do is usually a pretty clear indication of psychosis.

Pffft. Next you'll be telling us not to believe everything we read on the internet. Which is just craxxy.


Sue - Apr 06, 2005 10:25:12 am PDT #3805 of 10001
hip deep in pie

If you can't believe your TV, who can you trust?


Vortex - Apr 06, 2005 10:25:24 am PDT #3806 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Because you're responsible for your actions even if you're insane

in legal terms, you're insane only if you did not know right from wrong at the time of the crime. If you say "I know it was wrong, but the big white bunny told me to", you're not legally insane.


P.M. Marc - Apr 06, 2005 10:27:07 am PDT #3807 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Buh? I thought this was already the case.

The specialized documents they're talking about in this case are things like the frequent crosser things they already have in place--not the usual ID + Birth Certificate that you're supposed to have.

What it means for me, basically, is that I'll be shelling out a couple of hundred bucks (because the kidlet will need one, too) that I really can't afford just so that I can still make it across the border in case of funerals. There are sections of my state that are going to be royally fucked by this, one suspects, as they depend on border traffic.