Exorcism?
We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus.
Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'
Natter 34: Freak With No Name
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Thomash - Apr 06, 2005 9:49:50 am PDT #3773 of 10001
I have a plan.
Emily - Apr 06, 2005 9:50:14 am PDT #3774 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
mentor? role model? Something like that. It's from Karma Chameleon, when she's talking on the couch with the other girl.
Oh, oh, right! It's, uh... maybe icon? Or it could be role model. Something.
Sean K - Apr 06, 2005 9:50:20 am PDT #3775 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
AND I finally won a free iTunes song for drinking diet pepsi. Phew.
Only just now, Jesse? I've won, like fifteen songs off of iTunes from Pepsi. I must be stealing all your songs.
I'd give them back, but I already downloaded them. They're mine, and you can't have them.
And yeah, forcibly drugging the crazy lady may sound awful, but since she's on trial, the alternative is actually worse. It needs to happen, whether she wants it or not.
Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 9:50:31 am PDT #3776 of 10001
Visilurking
On the other, she did commit a crime and thereby forfeited a good chunk of rights.
I don't know that I necessarily agree with this in all cases. If she committed the crime while insane, how could she have forfeited those rights?
Also, if she wasn't medicated and she stood trial and was convicted and then at a later date returned to her sanity, couldn't she sue the state for not making sure she comprehended the charges?
That's exactly why she has to be declared competent before they'll let her stand trial.
Stephanie - Apr 06, 2005 9:51:18 am PDT #3777 of 10001
Trust my rage
Wolfram, insent to profile addy.
(no need to bore the board with really boring legal stuff)
I just sent what I had accessible, so no promises of helpfulness.
Sue - Apr 06, 2005 9:52:34 am PDT #3778 of 10001
hip deep in pie
Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 9:53:41 am PDT #3779 of 10001
Visilurking
Wolfram, insent to profile addy.
Thanks, Stephanie!
Sean K - Apr 06, 2005 9:55:36 am PDT #3780 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
On the other, she did commit a crime and thereby forfeited a good chunk of rights.
Oooh, not to jump on you, but the whole point of our legal system is that you don't forfeit your rights just because you commit a crime. You'll lose rights after you're convicted of a crime, but not until then.
Vortex - Apr 06, 2005 9:57:30 am PDT #3781 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Wolfram, sorry that I missed the res judicata discussion. i kept reading and thinking, well . .. and then someone would say it! and it would have been vaguely work related. feh.
as for the crazy criminal question, some courts have found that the state may medicate a defendant for the purposes of determining whether they want to be medicated on a permanent basis.
Vortex - Apr 06, 2005 9:59:06 am PDT #3782 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
the whole point of our legal system is that you don't forfeit your rights just because you commit a crime. You'll lose rights after you're convicted of a crime, but not until then.
I think that the word(s) you're looking for is not "commit" but "accused of"