Interview with the latest TAR losers:
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us? Zoe: The ugly one, sir. Mal: Could you be more specific?
'Out Of Gas'
Natter 34: Freak With No Name
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Sue - Apr 06, 2005 9:52:34 am PDT #3778 of 10001
hip deep in pie
Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 9:53:41 am PDT #3779 of 10001
Visilurking
Wolfram, insent to profile addy.
Thanks, Stephanie!
Sean K - Apr 06, 2005 9:55:36 am PDT #3780 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
On the other, she did commit a crime and thereby forfeited a good chunk of rights.
Oooh, not to jump on you, but the whole point of our legal system is that you don't forfeit your rights just because you commit a crime. You'll lose rights after you're convicted of a crime, but not until then.
Vortex - Apr 06, 2005 9:57:30 am PDT #3781 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Wolfram, sorry that I missed the res judicata discussion. i kept reading and thinking, well . .. and then someone would say it! and it would have been vaguely work related. feh.
as for the crazy criminal question, some courts have found that the state may medicate a defendant for the purposes of determining whether they want to be medicated on a permanent basis.
Vortex - Apr 06, 2005 9:59:06 am PDT #3782 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
the whole point of our legal system is that you don't forfeit your rights just because you commit a crime. You'll lose rights after you're convicted of a crime, but not until then.
I think that the word(s) you're looking for is not "commit" but "accused of"
bon bon - Apr 06, 2005 10:00:41 am PDT #3783 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Oooh, not to jump on you, but the whole point of our legal system is that you don't forfeit your rights just because you commit a crime. You'll lose rights after you're convicted of a crime, but not until then.
Like I noted above, yes you do get some things taken away if indicted. E.g., being jailed, or having assets frozen.
Sean K - Apr 06, 2005 10:00:57 am PDT #3784 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Vortex said it better.
Sean K - Apr 06, 2005 10:03:46 am PDT #3785 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
As did bon bon.
JZ - Apr 06, 2005 10:04:14 am PDT #3786 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Popping in to wish much, much health and recovery-ma to Jeff, and to very firmly instruct his kidney and the rest of his body that they must stop quarreling at once. They're all on the same team and there is to be absolutely no infighting.
Also, healthma to the pneumonic but still lovely Rio, and big birthday kisses to Annabel.
Also, joining the "knows-nothing-about-law-but-is-fascinated-by-the-res-whatsit-discussion" corner, which is nicely crowded with all sortsa cool people, and also is rumored to have cookies.
Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 10:06:08 am PDT #3787 of 10001
Visilurking
I think there's difference between forfeiting rights and losing rights. The former is a function of the mindset of the accused/committer. Did he/she knowingly commit this crime and thus forfeit some rights as a result? The second is a function of our legal system weighing the interests of society to secure the accused for trial against the accused's own civil rights that he/she may never have "forfeited" since he/she may never have commited the accused of crime.