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Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sean K - Apr 06, 2005 9:50:20 am PDT #3775 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

AND I finally won a free iTunes song for drinking diet pepsi. Phew.

Only just now, Jesse? I've won, like fifteen songs off of iTunes from Pepsi. I must be stealing all your songs.

I'd give them back, but I already downloaded them. They're mine, and you can't have them.

And yeah, forcibly drugging the crazy lady may sound awful, but since she's on trial, the alternative is actually worse. It needs to happen, whether she wants it or not.


Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 9:50:31 am PDT #3776 of 10001
Visilurking

On the other, she did commit a crime and thereby forfeited a good chunk of rights.

I don't know that I necessarily agree with this in all cases. If she committed the crime while insane, how could she have forfeited those rights?

Also, if she wasn't medicated and she stood trial and was convicted and then at a later date returned to her sanity, couldn't she sue the state for not making sure she comprehended the charges?

That's exactly why she has to be declared competent before they'll let her stand trial.


Stephanie - Apr 06, 2005 9:51:18 am PDT #3777 of 10001
Trust my rage

Wolfram, insent to profile addy.

(no need to bore the board with really boring legal stuff)

I just sent what I had accessible, so no promises of helpfulness.


Sue - Apr 06, 2005 9:52:34 am PDT #3778 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Interview with the latest TAR losers:

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Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 9:53:41 am PDT #3779 of 10001
Visilurking

Wolfram, insent to profile addy.

Thanks, Stephanie!


Sean K - Apr 06, 2005 9:55:36 am PDT #3780 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

On the other, she did commit a crime and thereby forfeited a good chunk of rights.

Oooh, not to jump on you, but the whole point of our legal system is that you don't forfeit your rights just because you commit a crime. You'll lose rights after you're convicted of a crime, but not until then.


Vortex - Apr 06, 2005 9:57:30 am PDT #3781 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Wolfram, sorry that I missed the res judicata discussion. i kept reading and thinking, well . .. and then someone would say it! and it would have been vaguely work related. feh.

as for the crazy criminal question, some courts have found that the state may medicate a defendant for the purposes of determining whether they want to be medicated on a permanent basis.


Vortex - Apr 06, 2005 9:59:06 am PDT #3782 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

the whole point of our legal system is that you don't forfeit your rights just because you commit a crime. You'll lose rights after you're convicted of a crime, but not until then.

I think that the word(s) you're looking for is not "commit" but "accused of"


bon bon - Apr 06, 2005 10:00:41 am PDT #3783 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Oooh, not to jump on you, but the whole point of our legal system is that you don't forfeit your rights just because you commit a crime. You'll lose rights after you're convicted of a crime, but not until then.

Like I noted above, yes you do get some things taken away if indicted. E.g., being jailed, or having assets frozen.


Sean K - Apr 06, 2005 10:00:57 am PDT #3784 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Vortex said it better.