In Jack & Bobby, not only does he co-parent his brother, he parents his mother. It's royally dysfunctional, and he knows and resents her for it, even as he does it.
Zoe: Preacher, don't the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killing? Book: Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.
'War Stories'
Natter 34: Freak With No Name
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2005 1:49:14 pm PST #2022 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Kat - Mar 31, 2005 1:50:15 pm PST #2023 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
But I would not say he's buds with her.
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2005 1:52:30 pm PST #2024 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Really? I don't get the vibe that he likes her. They don't share many close and upbeat moments, and if they do, they're likely to be shared parenting moments, not actual friendship.
Kat - Mar 31, 2005 1:54:09 pm PST #2025 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
No. I missed a not in there that I put in on edit.
I think he resents her more than he feels like, "hey! Friend!"
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2005 1:56:12 pm PST #2026 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Oh, absolutely. I cited him as the only boychild peer I could think of, although I'm still searching for one like Rory or Veronica who's actually not unhappy about it, and doesn't feel like their childhood was stolen.
brenda m - Mar 31, 2005 1:56:36 pm PST #2027 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
The Salon kerfuffle has been interesting to watch, but "not publically humiliating your children" strikes me as good policy regardless of your profession, gender, or fame.
Yes, but... I guess I just don't get where the automatic assumption that honesty, even about difficult issues, equals deliberately humiliating your children. Sure, in some cases it might be. And things may get awkward here and there. (The suicide question and how it was/is being handled is a more complicated issue, and not one I feel able to address, except to say that I'm not disagreeing with Betsy.)
But so much of the commentary feels to me like "shut up and take it and keep a smile on your face while doing it - its for the children," that it's setting off a real squick for me. As though havjng a mental and emotional life, and having mental and emotional problems within that life, practically constitutes BadMothering in and of itself, and the only defensible way of dealing is to shove it deep down where no one will ever see.
Kristen - Mar 31, 2005 1:59:37 pm PST #2028 of 10001
What's a false tabloid?. Cause I don't understand at all.
HA! I've been going on about that all afternoon.
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2005 2:00:40 pm PST #2029 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I just don't get where the automatic assumption that honesty, even about difficult issues, equals deliberately humiliating your children
How do you feel about it in this instance? I think, as a kid (pre-18 or so), I'd have been mortally embarassed at the level of detail, which is completely separate from the disquiet at learning that my mother has ranked her love in public, and I lose. She's posted elsewhere that she'd make one of her kids take a bullet to save her husband's life, and I can say that's the sort of public honesty I'd find mortifying for a host of reasons.
Kat - Mar 31, 2005 2:01:24 pm PST #2030 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
I love the PS...That's the best part, Kristen.
Kristen - Mar 31, 2005 2:05:37 pm PST #2031 of 10001
It is! And they'd be my favorite too if they paid me $2M for photos of my "faux" wedding.